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To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

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AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

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nomas · 07/10/2025 11:07

ExtraOnions · 07/10/2025 10:21

Both sides are now so entrenched there is little room left for reasonable debate and action. You can’t say anything without being accused of either supporting genocide, or being anti-Semitic.

I genuinely see no way that this starts to get resolved ..we seem to have lost the ability to accept that different people, have different views, and we don’t have to spend our days shouting at them in an attempt to change thier mind.

Every conversation is filled with Hypoerbole .. everything is “disgusting” “appalling” “disgraceful” “an attack” etc .. I kinda blame SM for some of it, it’s seems to whip up this sort of language.

Lots of people think that; The Hamas attack was wrong, the destruction of Gaza is wrong, making people in this country feel unsafe is wrong, curtailing free-speech is wrong, shouting in each others faces in wrong.

You can think all of these things, at the same time.

Agreed. There is no room for rational discourse.

Maray1967 · 07/10/2025 11:08

derxa · 07/10/2025 10:45

The woman has been identified. An academic apparently.

And I’m not remotely surprised. She’s probably a member of my former union which seemed to never notice horrific abuses committed by many governments, in particular a government of a very large and powerful state with which many British universities have been keen to link - but which called for endless boycotts of Israel.

ApplebyArrows · 07/10/2025 11:08

If destroying memorials to people murdered by racially/religiously motivated terrorists isn't a hate crime, then what is??

(I think the Israeli government are absolute complete genocidal lunatics, by the way.)

ThatLadyLady · 07/10/2025 11:09

Mistyglade · 07/10/2025 09:48

She’s a disgusting ignoramus, I wish someone had had the courage to drag her away.

Nice and peaceful there.

Winederlust · 07/10/2025 11:12

JustJani · 07/10/2025 10:44

Yes, and I wouldn't be comfortable if there were Pro-Palestinian flags, ribbons and stickers affixed to road signs, fences and benches or and posters of victims flyposted on either. That would be similarly politicising the area.

Both organised protests and individuals flying flags at their home are very different.

I largely agree. Not an excuse to rip down a memorial though.

What I can't abide is hypocrisy and double standards. And it's unfortunately everywhere atm.

Linzloopy · 07/10/2025 11:12

Your replies clearly show you think Israel is justified in murdering tens of thousands of innocent civilians
They show nothing of the sort. I haven’t seen any posts on this thread saying or implying anything like that.

you clearly see Palestinians as subhuman as do the synagogue where these people were shot
Absolute defamatory lies. How do you know the opinions of people you have never met, who have not stated those opinions?

Confidently stating lies doesn’t make them the truth.

Your use of the word "clearly", twice, about something that isn’t clear at all, is a giveaway that you are just hopefully imputing your own hate-filled personality to others so you can attack them. And you call others racist! I suggest you look in the mirror.

Badgerandfox227 · 07/10/2025 11:17

Utterly disgraceful thing to do to a memorial for the 7th October victims. She should be thoroughly ashamed of her actions.

ToWhitToWhoo · 07/10/2025 11:17

JustJani · 07/10/2025 09:47

I live in an area with a huge number of yellow ribbons and posters commemorating the victims and to be honest, it's uncomfortable. It's become more than a memorial, it's now a pro-Israel political statement. As demonstrated by the fact the ribbons are often accompanied by "Fuck Hamas" stickers and the like.

I do have some sympathy for Israel's position - more than the general public, probably - but I certainly don't support the current decimation of Palestine and I don't like the way the whole locality now seems to have been branded pro-Israeli, it doesn't represent me for sure.

Edited

I am totally opposed to the current Israeli government and its actions, but what's wrong with 'fuck Hamas'? They need to fuck off to the far side of fuck.

ToWhitToWhoo · 07/10/2025 11:18

ApplebyArrows · 07/10/2025 11:08

If destroying memorials to people murdered by racially/religiously motivated terrorists isn't a hate crime, then what is??

(I think the Israeli government are absolute complete genocidal lunatics, by the way.)

Agree on all of this.

childofthe607080s · 07/10/2025 11:20

Because Hamas isn’t the one committing genocide ?

how many ribbons would we need for each child that has been murdered in the last 2 years by Israel?

what colour should they be?

perhaps the ribbon chopper has lost a friend or family in this atrocity ?

HerewardtheSleepy · 07/10/2025 11:22

Sorry, I agree with her. Regardless of why they were put up, they were an eyesore based on a cheesy song of the 1970s.
How do you know what her motivation was OP?

PurpleChrayn · 07/10/2025 11:23

JustJani · 07/10/2025 09:47

I live in an area with a huge number of yellow ribbons and posters commemorating the victims and to be honest, it's uncomfortable. It's become more than a memorial, it's now a pro-Israel political statement. As demonstrated by the fact the ribbons are often accompanied by "Fuck Hamas" stickers and the like.

I do have some sympathy for Israel's position - more than the general public, probably - but I certainly don't support the current decimation of Palestine and I don't like the way the whole locality now seems to have been branded pro-Israeli, it doesn't represent me for sure.

Edited

So you’re cool with Hamas?

It’s the festival of Sukkot today. I haven’t taken the children to synagogue because I’m frankly tired of having to explain and comfort them about the police vans outside, plus the heightened security at their school.

We are being very quiet and unobtrusive with our celebrations in the Sukkah this year (the booth we build in the garden, to have meals in) because our neighbours are pro-Hamas.

We have started the ball rolling on a move to Israel.

Thanks to attitudes like yours, a family who has contributed to this country for generations (doctors, teachers, researchers, lawyers) since my great-grandparents arrived in 1901 escaping European pogroms, is now leaving.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/10/2025 11:25

I’m with you op.
Utterly disgraceful, she is an utter lowlife.

HerewardtheSleepy · 07/10/2025 11:27

AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:50

What’s wrong with Fuck Hamas stickers? Would pro Hamas stickers make you less uncomfortable?

Ever heard of the Stern Gang?
Not a lot of difference between the two IMO.

KnittyNell · 07/10/2025 11:29

Let’s hope the bitch gets hit by karma very soon.

nomas · 07/10/2025 11:31

PurpleChrayn · 07/10/2025 11:23

So you’re cool with Hamas?

It’s the festival of Sukkot today. I haven’t taken the children to synagogue because I’m frankly tired of having to explain and comfort them about the police vans outside, plus the heightened security at their school.

We are being very quiet and unobtrusive with our celebrations in the Sukkah this year (the booth we build in the garden, to have meals in) because our neighbours are pro-Hamas.

We have started the ball rolling on a move to Israel.

Thanks to attitudes like yours, a family who has contributed to this country for generations (doctors, teachers, researchers, lawyers) since my great-grandparents arrived in 1901 escaping European pogroms, is now leaving.

Sorry to hear you're thinking of leaving. No one should have to leave their home or feel that they can't be be free in their home or go to their synagogue.

YourBrickTiger · 07/10/2025 11:32

I would really love to meet the people on this who vote 'you are being unreasonable'.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 11:33

childofthe607080s · 07/10/2025 11:20

Because Hamas isn’t the one committing genocide ?

how many ribbons would we need for each child that has been murdered in the last 2 years by Israel?

what colour should they be?

perhaps the ribbon chopper has lost a friend or family in this atrocity ?

Hamas has allowed its entire nation to starve and be dependent on western aid for decades, whilst planning murderous attacks on innocent people from the plush palaces in Qatar, they started this new round of hostilities. So to say they have no blood on their hands is quite frankly ludicrous. A Hamas supporter - is illegal here in the U.K. I hope you will be arrested soon.

CraftyNavySeal · 07/10/2025 11:35

childofthe607080s · 07/10/2025 11:20

Because Hamas isn’t the one committing genocide ?

how many ribbons would we need for each child that has been murdered in the last 2 years by Israel?

what colour should they be?

perhaps the ribbon chopper has lost a friend or family in this atrocity ?

I doubt it. I’m from the area and she seems like all the other white lefty liberal sixth formers I grew up with.

I am pro Palestine as it happens but I think cutting down a memorial to the October 7th victims on the anniversary, next to a synagogue is abhorrent. It’s entirely possible to feel sympathy for all the victims in this.

askmenow · 07/10/2025 11:35

JustJani · 07/10/2025 09:47

I live in an area with a huge number of yellow ribbons and posters commemorating the victims and to be honest, it's uncomfortable. It's become more than a memorial, it's now a pro-Israel political statement. As demonstrated by the fact the ribbons are often accompanied by "Fuck Hamas" stickers and the like.

I do have some sympathy for Israel's position - more than the general public, probably - but I certainly don't support the current decimation of Palestine and I don't like the way the whole locality now seems to have been branded pro-Israeli, it doesn't represent me for sure.

Edited

See yes FUCK HAMAS! They are a TERRORIST organisation not a militant group as the main stream media want to paint them.

Jewish people make up 1% of the population,
and they deserve our protection.

They get on with their lives without infringing on the liberties or sensibilities of the indigenous population.

Unlike other ethnicities/religions who attempt to foist their beliefs upon us and force us to make adjustments to our way of life to accommodate them.
That doesn’t cut it anymore and has to stop!

You come to live here and you assimilate into our lives not the other way round.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/10/2025 11:35

Ablondiebutagoody · 07/10/2025 09:51

I'm pleased that the real motives of the pro Palestine movement are becoming obvious to everyone

I didn’t know the real motives of the pro Palestine movement before all this as you say the real motives are becoming obvious to everyone.

stillhiding1990 · 07/10/2025 11:37

@JustJaniYou have a problem with fuck Hamas sentiment??? Fuck Hamas, fuck all terrorist groups, fuck boko haram, fuck al-shabaab.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 11:37

PurpleChrayn · 07/10/2025 11:23

So you’re cool with Hamas?

It’s the festival of Sukkot today. I haven’t taken the children to synagogue because I’m frankly tired of having to explain and comfort them about the police vans outside, plus the heightened security at their school.

We are being very quiet and unobtrusive with our celebrations in the Sukkah this year (the booth we build in the garden, to have meals in) because our neighbours are pro-Hamas.

We have started the ball rolling on a move to Israel.

Thanks to attitudes like yours, a family who has contributed to this country for generations (doctors, teachers, researchers, lawyers) since my great-grandparents arrived in 1901 escaping European pogroms, is now leaving.

I hope the poll will comfort you - 88% of people support the yellow ribbons, and the memorial. I am sorry this situation is affecting you so much. I am deeply ashamed of some of the white British met elite jumping on this bandwagon and giving it oxygen. Their privilege and education has not taught them a thing - not the historical reference nor compassion for a wounded, traumatised nation such as Israel.

I hope you stay. The tide is turning here rapidly.

JudgeJ · 07/10/2025 11:38

Ihatetomatoes · 07/10/2025 09:54

It is. These hate filled people walk amongst us.

And the hate filled fly the Palestinian/Hamas flag!

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 07/10/2025 11:40

Someone made a great comparison upthread to 9/11 which I think is really pertinent. 9/11 is remembered every year for the huge loss of innocent life. To recognise that isn't excusing the actions of Bush and Blair who used it as an excuse to walk us into a dreadful war, but we should still be able to recognise the loss of life on 9/11, and the loss of lives in the middle East that followed, and feel deeply sorry for the civilian casualties and their families while condemning the cowards in power who play war games from their safe positions of power.

This is no different. We should be able to mark the loss of the innocent hostages and the victims of genocide, who are all victims of the egos and power grabs of Hamas and Netanyahu's government.

For the poster above who referred to Palestinians cheering after 7/10; I had a picture encyclopedia growing up and one of the photos I remember most clearly is two side-by-side - children in both Israel and Palestine being encouraged by their armies to write on missiles that would be fired into the neighbouring country. People on both sides have been radicalised against each other from a very young age; the people cheering in the streets now were those children - what chance did they stand?