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To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

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AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

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ContraryNoodle · 07/10/2025 11:41

There are the usual useful idiots spouting nonsense about genocide etc. Deffo Fuck Hamas and the huge numbers of supporters.

Thegreyhound · 07/10/2025 11:42

Cutting down the ribbons was offensive and I can’t see the point in doing it at all.
Anyone sensible should be horrified by violence against civilians anywhere.

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 07/10/2025 11:43

childofthe607080s · 07/10/2025 11:20

Because Hamas isn’t the one committing genocide ?

how many ribbons would we need for each child that has been murdered in the last 2 years by Israel?

what colour should they be?

perhaps the ribbon chopper has lost a friend or family in this atrocity ?

I support Palestine but I do not support cutting down memorials and signs of support. This shouldn't be Israel's dead versus Palestine's dead in a battle for who deserves to be mourned; it should be anyone with a conscience against those in power around the world who are perpetuating the violence or not doing enough to stop it.

peanutbuttertoasty · 07/10/2025 11:43

Given all the other things that are labelled as such, this is surely a hate crime

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/10/2025 11:47

nomas · 07/10/2025 10:08

You are sounding more and more like the thought police.

No it’s what any one with decency is thinking.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 11:48

ContraryNoodle · 07/10/2025 11:41

There are the usual useful idiots spouting nonsense about genocide etc. Deffo Fuck Hamas and the huge numbers of supporters.

Mostly are virtue signallers and the mentally ill that appear to not have the first clue that they are supporting Hamas with their tin pot protests. It’s astonishing.

They claim they are there to stop the genocide - and for the babies but appear not to grasp the genocide Hamas created for their own people, that they deliberately started this latest war and in the process committed genocide themselves against the Israelis.

They appear not to be remotely interested in peace, and stopped calling for that months ago. I can’t see them supporting the peace plan either because they don’t actually want peace. They want to indulge in racism and activism.

So what are they protesting for apart from to create division, racial hatred against a minority and to be arrested ultimately? Shameful.

Honeybunny75 · 07/10/2025 11:48

JustJani · 07/10/2025 09:47

I live in an area with a huge number of yellow ribbons and posters commemorating the victims and to be honest, it's uncomfortable. It's become more than a memorial, it's now a pro-Israel political statement. As demonstrated by the fact the ribbons are often accompanied by "Fuck Hamas" stickers and the like.

I do have some sympathy for Israel's position - more than the general public, probably - but I certainly don't support the current decimation of Palestine and I don't like the way the whole locality now seems to have been branded pro-Israeli, it doesn't represent me for sure.

Edited

Help me out here
What am I not understanding
Israel is attacking Palestine, and has been for a log time .killing women and children waiting in food lines . Israel is mainly inhabited by Jews ,and Palestine by Muslims
Hamas retaliation once of the music festival killings .
So that was why a Muslim man attacked the synagogue recently?
So what are the yellow ribbons for ..
And why would someone cut them down
Apologies is anything I've said is wrong .I've been living in a bubble of SEN kids and LEA issues,so a lot has passed me by

nomas · 07/10/2025 11:48

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/10/2025 11:47

No it’s what any one with decency is thinking.

You are not the thought police.

BetterWithPockets · 07/10/2025 11:49

AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 10:29

You think calling someone who defaces a memorial to victims of a terrorist attack disgusting, appalling or disgraceful is hyperbole? Really?

If anything I think it’s an understatement.

It’s somehow not surprising that’s the only part of @ExtraOnions’s post that you chose to respond to.
Onions, you said it so much better than I could have done.

Linzloopy · 07/10/2025 11:51

PurpleChrayn · 07/10/2025 11:23

So you’re cool with Hamas?

It’s the festival of Sukkot today. I haven’t taken the children to synagogue because I’m frankly tired of having to explain and comfort them about the police vans outside, plus the heightened security at their school.

We are being very quiet and unobtrusive with our celebrations in the Sukkah this year (the booth we build in the garden, to have meals in) because our neighbours are pro-Hamas.

We have started the ball rolling on a move to Israel.

Thanks to attitudes like yours, a family who has contributed to this country for generations (doctors, teachers, researchers, lawyers) since my great-grandparents arrived in 1901 escaping European pogroms, is now leaving.

How very sad.

Laiste · 07/10/2025 11:51

I want to preface here by saying i acknowledge there are extreme and awful views held by a minority. I do not refute that there is antisemitism here in the UK.

Want i want try to say though is this: i can see (now, reading this thread) that there is confusion about why 'average' people in Britain aren't visibly condemning Hamas, while at the same time are willing to visibly be 'anti-Israel'.

I can see why this could lead to bewilderment and a feeling that the reason must be anti-semetism.

My very humble opinion is this (and i apologise if i'm stating the obvious or sounding thick as mince!) i believe that many average people over here think like this:

Hamas = terrorists. A corrupt and awful government/organisation which is in power through corrupt means, and who everybody knows is doing no good for the people of Palestine. Goes without saying they're obviously extremist bastards.

The Israeli government = a legit, supposedly reasonable sane government, voted for by the people of Israel.

We expect no better from Hamas than what we see; murder, torture, kidnapping. However we don't expect to see a legitimate government committing genocide.

I think that's why we don't see anti Hamas parades - it's a sentiment which kind of goes without saying. They're terrorists. They're not going to be displaced by any diplomatic means - waving a flag will do nothing.

'Israel', ie: BN and his policies however are are within a legitimate political framework and can be protested about with a hopeful view to change.

Its what i think anyway.

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 07/10/2025 11:53

I have no issue with the ribbons. They shouldn't have been cut down.

Perhaps the ribbon commemorations should be widened though. Perhaps a ribbon for each person.

1,390 for the victims of 7/10 + hostages
67,000 for the Palestinians killed as a result of Israel's revenge.

If we commemorate one, we should commemorate both.

I assume no one would have issues with similar ribbons of Palestinian victims?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/10/2025 11:53

Namechang44 · 07/10/2025 10:12

It is disgusting and I do hope you’re just as outraged with the starvation and genocide, ethnic cleaning of tens of thousands of civilians?

Nothing will change while Hamas exists.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 07/10/2025 11:53

BlueandPinkSwan · 07/10/2025 11:03

This anti Jew feeling is not unlike Germany before WWll. A friend of mine is a young Jew, he's worried for his family living in East London.

Is it possible to be anti memorialising the 7/10 kidnappings and murders in that way, and not anti semitic?

I'm not saying there isn't anti Jewish sentiment among some people in Britain, but there are many Jews who are anti what the Israeli govt has done / is doing and supportive of the Palestine marches.

It seems a very extreme and unkind reaction to me, but I don't know if it definitely means anti semitism.

AdoraBell · 07/10/2025 11:54

YANBU it’s utterly disgusting.

jeaux90 · 07/10/2025 11:55

Yes she was an entitled and disgraceful asshole.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 07/10/2025 11:56

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/10/2025 11:53

Nothing will change while Hamas exists.

Tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians are dead, many more starving, many more disabled, whole cities flattened, infrastructure destroyed... and yet Hamas still exists. Slow hand clap for the Israeli govt.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 11:56

Honeybunny75 · 07/10/2025 11:48

Help me out here
What am I not understanding
Israel is attacking Palestine, and has been for a log time .killing women and children waiting in food lines . Israel is mainly inhabited by Jews ,and Palestine by Muslims
Hamas retaliation once of the music festival killings .
So that was why a Muslim man attacked the synagogue recently?
So what are the yellow ribbons for ..
And why would someone cut them down
Apologies is anything I've said is wrong .I've been living in a bubble of SEN kids and LEA issues,so a lot has passed me by

You have things mixed up certainly.

Hamas committed mass murder on the 7th October. Including babies and young children were slaughtered. Many hostages were taken and are still captured. Many have died.

Israel retaliated like any country would and have worked hard to take out Hamas. Hamas buried many of their weapons etc under schools and hospitals assuming Israel wouldn’t dare to touch them.

The peace plan seems to be coming together on both sides as of last week. It is work in progress.

The yellow ribbons are to remember the dead. Today is the anniversary.

A bunch of hairy left leaning nutters have given up pretending to want peace, and generally use the ‘protests’ to air their anti semitic views. The UK have banned the group they support, so arrests are now made as they are openly supporting Hamas. Racial hatred seems to be fine with them, not so much for the rest of us, whom feel sad for the loss of life on both sides.

ThatLadyLady · 07/10/2025 11:57

Laiste · 07/10/2025 11:51

I want to preface here by saying i acknowledge there are extreme and awful views held by a minority. I do not refute that there is antisemitism here in the UK.

Want i want try to say though is this: i can see (now, reading this thread) that there is confusion about why 'average' people in Britain aren't visibly condemning Hamas, while at the same time are willing to visibly be 'anti-Israel'.

I can see why this could lead to bewilderment and a feeling that the reason must be anti-semetism.

My very humble opinion is this (and i apologise if i'm stating the obvious or sounding thick as mince!) i believe that many average people over here think like this:

Hamas = terrorists. A corrupt and awful government/organisation which is in power through corrupt means, and who everybody knows is doing no good for the people of Palestine. Goes without saying they're obviously extremist bastards.

The Israeli government = a legit, supposedly reasonable sane government, voted for by the people of Israel.

We expect no better from Hamas than what we see; murder, torture, kidnapping. However we don't expect to see a legitimate government committing genocide.

I think that's why we don't see anti Hamas parades - it's a sentiment which kind of goes without saying. They're terrorists. They're not going to be displaced by any diplomatic means - waving a flag will do nothing.

'Israel', ie: BN and his policies however are are within a legitimate political framework and can be protested about with a hopeful view to change.

Its what i think anyway.

It’s because those of us who are anti genocide are sick of being told we’re pro-terrorism and antisemitic. I’m neither of those things so I’m not going to pander to the people who seem to be unable to think critically.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 11:58

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 07/10/2025 11:56

Tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians are dead, many more starving, many more disabled, whole cities flattened, infrastructure destroyed... and yet Hamas still exists. Slow hand clap for the Israeli govt.

Hamas are terrorists they are going to exist even if they no longer govern.

Krakinou · 07/10/2025 12:00

Also a fact that might be interesting to all the “stop the boats”/reformers on this thread (suspect there’s a large overlap with the pro-Israel crowd)… In 1918, Jewish people made up 9% of Palestine. This shot up to 82% in 1948 when most non-Jews were hounded out of newly formed Israel, and is now 75% not including all the settlers in occupied territories.

Worth bearing in mind for those who have formed an opinion knowing precisely nothing about the history of the conflict. How would you all feel if we saw that scale of immigration in the UK over the next century? Would you be surprised if “native” Brits became radicalized?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-and-non-jewish-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present

Jewish & Non-Jewish Population of Israel/Palestine (1517-Present)

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-and-non-jewish-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 12:01

ThatLadyLady · 07/10/2025 11:57

It’s because those of us who are anti genocide are sick of being told we’re pro-terrorism and antisemitic. I’m neither of those things so I’m not going to pander to the people who seem to be unable to think critically.

IF you are anti genocide (aren’t we all!!) when it comes to the Israelis that were slaughtered in their beds I assume you feel just as horrified about that?

Honeybunny75 · 07/10/2025 12:01

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 11:56

You have things mixed up certainly.

Hamas committed mass murder on the 7th October. Including babies and young children were slaughtered. Many hostages were taken and are still captured. Many have died.

Israel retaliated like any country would and have worked hard to take out Hamas. Hamas buried many of their weapons etc under schools and hospitals assuming Israel wouldn’t dare to touch them.

The peace plan seems to be coming together on both sides as of last week. It is work in progress.

The yellow ribbons are to remember the dead. Today is the anniversary.

A bunch of hairy left leaning nutters have given up pretending to want peace, and generally use the ‘protests’ to air their anti semitic views. The UK have banned the group they support, so arrests are now made as they are openly supporting Hamas. Racial hatred seems to be fine with them, not so much for the rest of us, whom feel sad for the loss of life on both sides.

Edited

But I thought the music festival killings were in retaliation to the IDF attacking Palestine and murdering people,and trying to force them out of Palestine

UpWhereTheyWalk · 07/10/2025 12:03

I agree it's disgusting, why can't people just acknowledge there is mass suffering going on from all different perspectives. Rather than picking a side and deciding the other people don't matter.
I feel like I'm the only one that feels sad for everybody, like it's not allowed and you have to pick.

Nestingbirds · 07/10/2025 12:04

Honeybunny75 · 07/10/2025 12:01

But I thought the music festival killings were in retaliation to the IDF attacking Palestine and murdering people,and trying to force them out of Palestine

No, that is not true. The truth is that Hamas are paid by Iran. The peace plan was looking hopeful just before then with Saudi leading the talks, they came within a whisker of an agreement. Hamas has never wanted peace. Its only objective is to obliterate every Jew.