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To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

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AngeloMysterioso · 07/10/2025 09:43

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

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Hadmysay · 12/10/2025 09:15

KTheGrey · 10/10/2025 11:24

Your argument makes no sense - “hurt people hurt people” really suggests an equality of responsibility because all parties are trauma survivors here.

Also I think you’ll fine that Jewish tribes were knocking around the area from about 5000 years ago. Semite may code for Jewish now, but originally it refers to peoples from the Levant, Arabian Peninsula, North Africa etc so it’s not that the Jewish people woke up one day and said ‘Let’s go somewhere random.’ Read the Torah / Old Testament - everybody is pretty peripatetic but they are all wandering about that same area. These are not new disputes.

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I never said there were new disputes.
But I still don't believe Israel should have been created. Especially the way it was created.

Hadmysay · 12/10/2025 09:20

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SpaceRaccoon · 12/10/2025 09:40

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No, they just got forced out of their homes and countries.
Israel is defending its security largely, not "oppressing others". Take a look at what Hamas is doing again in Gaza right now, today, if you want to discuss oppression.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/10/2025 09:51

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I’m astonished you think that’s a persuasive argument and can only assume you know nothing about how Jewish populations were treated across the Middle East.

1dayatatime · 12/10/2025 10:00

Hadmysay · 12/10/2025 09:15

I never said there were new disputes.
But I still don't believe Israel should have been created. Especially the way it was created.

I genuinely respect the honesty in your comment and I believe that there are many many more that share your opinion, based on the view that the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was imposed by the UN and Western powers against the region's majority Muslim countries, in order to assuage the guilt of Western countries to prevent the holocaust of Jewish people by Germany.

Now to be clear I don't share that view but I do respect honesty and clarity in opinions and it is impossible to have a rational debate when posters obfuscate what their actual views are.

For example everyone coming up with their own personal interpretation of what Zionism means - how about sticking to the dictionary definition is.

Otherwise I might as well have my own personal definition of a horse as an animal that wags its tail and barks Or for that matter a personal definition on what a woman is....

AzurePanda · 12/10/2025 11:11

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel I fear we are returning to an age of something akin to illiteracy where nobody studies actual history any more.
Instead people are getting their “information” from Tik Tok and Instagram.

PurpleThistle7 · 12/10/2025 11:46

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Huh? The Holocaust was ‘one’ tragedy. There were many more. The Jews were kicked out of lots of places and the list of places that would accept them just got smaller each time. So the Holocaust was the first time the rest of the world got embarrassed, it wasn’t at all the first time the Jews were in danger.

sabababa · 12/10/2025 12:08

Hadmysay · 12/10/2025 09:15

I never said there were new disputes.
But I still don't believe Israel should have been created. Especially the way it was created.

Who cares?
The Palestinian zionists living there at the time declared independence when the brits left and fought hard for it.
Do you also opine as to whether Pakistan or Bangladehs should have been created?

sabababa · 12/10/2025 12:20

PurpleThistle7 · 12/10/2025 11:46

Huh? The Holocaust was ‘one’ tragedy. There were many more. The Jews were kicked out of lots of places and the list of places that would accept them just got smaller each time. So the Holocaust was the first time the rest of the world got embarrassed, it wasn’t at all the first time the Jews were in danger.

I know, right? Its quite hilarious actually.
Like the holocaust just came out of nowhere and disappeared.
I mean, you don't need to look far.
@Hadmysay you sound like a bit of a misinformed bigot but nonetheless why dont you look up the history of the Jews of York and then tell us it started with the holocaust....
And BTW, educate yourself a bit more, Moroccan Jews were absolutely impacted by the Holocaust being under Vichy France.

sabababa · 12/10/2025 12:27

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Wow, talk about minimising the holocaust.
A few of you guys (one third of the entire Jewish population being slaughtered and not having recovered numbers even today) were oppressed a little bit (aka hunted down and shot or thrown into gas chambers simply fo rbeing Jewish) by a very bad man (oooh, that nasty Hitler, he did it all by himself wiht no help from anyone else) you "don't get to" oppress others (as though that's the prize and there's no other history)

Yes, of course, zionism was a movement long before the holocaust coming out of the existing anitsemitism as evidenced by the Dreyfuss affair and the Kishinev pograms. And of course, the anti semitism continued after as well such as the Kielce pogrom.

Honestly, you might no like that Israel exists but perhaps if you guys hadn't slaughtered, oppressed, raped, murdered, stolen from and expelled Jews for the last 2 thousand years then there would have been no need.

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 13:47

Hadmysay is appearing on other threads too and a wholly unsurprising pattern is emerging.

HermioneWeasley · 12/10/2025 17:37

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 13:47

Hadmysay is appearing on other threads too and a wholly unsurprising pattern is emerging.

Yes. She described the child rape gangs as “not a good look”.

this poster is not someone whose views on decency align with mine.

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 17:48

HermioneWeasley · 12/10/2025 17:37

Yes. She described the child rape gangs as “not a good look”.

this poster is not someone whose views on decency align with mine.

He. It's a man.

He then got a post deleted for saying that he would blame a child if a man was "uncomfortable" (that is, aroused) by the child because the child was being "inappropriate".

I'm not taking any lectures from this guy on anything. It's a huge mark in Israel's favour that he hates it.

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 17:56

Oh, and that was after numerous posts (he was really going at it) telling women how to think and claiming to be in favour of single sex female spaces but demanding that I and others justify them to him because he wanted to "hear you say it out loud". Because there is apparently a reason for them that would shame us.

All in all, not a fabulous advocate for the Palestinian cause or, indeed, anything at all.

Bumdrops · 12/10/2025 18:10

@Hadmysay
is on multiple posts spouting views about girls / women should moderate their dress as they are responsible for the the repercussions of male predatory urges
he has called women asking for their husbands to step up / do better - nagging, pestering and being the problem !!
he is anti-Semitic
antagonistic
misogynist
victim blaming
utter sewage

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 18:10

If a poster is banned, are all their posts deleted?

1dayatatime · 12/10/2025 18:14

Bumdrops · 12/10/2025 18:10

@Hadmysay
is on multiple posts spouting views about girls / women should moderate their dress as they are responsible for the the repercussions of male predatory urges
he has called women asking for their husbands to step up / do better - nagging, pestering and being the problem !!
he is anti-Semitic
antagonistic
misogynist
victim blaming
utter sewage

In defence of @Hadmysay they are at least being honest and transparent in their views, which many share and hide away from expressing openly.

Whilst I disagree with their views, I have much more respect for someone being open with their views than hiding away with their views.

Bumdrops · 12/10/2025 18:20

1dayatatime · 12/10/2025 18:14

In defence of @Hadmysay they are at least being honest and transparent in their views, which many share and hide away from expressing openly.

Whilst I disagree with their views, I have much more respect for someone being open with their views than hiding away with their views.

I agree, such open misogynistic / antisemitism gives society the opportunity / responsibility to call it out / condone it / spotlight it for what it is - as leaving hate speech unchecked, is to collude

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 18:50

Bumdrops · 12/10/2025 18:20

I agree, such open misogynistic / antisemitism gives society the opportunity / responsibility to call it out / condone it / spotlight it for what it is - as leaving hate speech unchecked, is to collude

I don't know, I don't think there's any benefit to platforming paedophilia apologists (at best) on a parenting website. We know these guys exist, we know they blame the kids or think it's their right... do we need to give them a stage? If they're so honest and open about their disgustingness, they can create their own platform.

1dayatatime · 12/10/2025 21:10

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 18:50

I don't know, I don't think there's any benefit to platforming paedophilia apologists (at best) on a parenting website. We know these guys exist, we know they blame the kids or think it's their right... do we need to give them a stage? If they're so honest and open about their disgustingness, they can create their own platform.

Actually I think there is a massive benefit from paedophiles being open in their views. We all know paedophiles exist but the problem is that we don't know who they are. If they are open with their views in real life then we can take active measures to protect our own children from them. It would also allow more effective monitoring so that if they put their beliefs into actual crime then they could be quickly arrested. As for expressing their views on social media platforms then we can at least engage with them in a constructive manner in the hope of changing their views or at the very least know who they are.

The same logic applies to any viewpoint that you strongly disagree with no matter how distasteful you find the views.

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 21:20

We don't need them to be open with their views, they're open enough with their actions. Knowing some anonymous guy uses MN to blame kids for paedophiles doesn't show us who the paedophile are and I very much doubt he's quite so open about it in real life; like most of us, he isn't using his real name here.

Even if a place should exist where paedophiles can talk openly about why kids deserve it (and I don't think it should), a parenting website isn't the place.

I really do think it's fine for some viewpoints not to be platformed under the guise of debate or exposure or rebuttal or whatever and people blaming kids for being "inappropriate" around a paedophile is one of them. They can always go to X or Bluesky, those places will uphold anything.

ClockworkGoose · 12/10/2025 21:21

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 18:10

If a poster is banned, are all their posts deleted?

No. For some reason the posts will all stay.

1dayatatime · 12/10/2025 21:35

ThatCyanCat · 12/10/2025 21:20

We don't need them to be open with their views, they're open enough with their actions. Knowing some anonymous guy uses MN to blame kids for paedophiles doesn't show us who the paedophile are and I very much doubt he's quite so open about it in real life; like most of us, he isn't using his real name here.

Even if a place should exist where paedophiles can talk openly about why kids deserve it (and I don't think it should), a parenting website isn't the place.

I really do think it's fine for some viewpoints not to be platformed under the guise of debate or exposure or rebuttal or whatever and people blaming kids for being "inappropriate" around a paedophile is one of them. They can always go to X or Bluesky, those places will uphold anything.

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I agree with you that it is of no benefit that if the person is expressing their views (which many find repugnant or disagreeable) anonymously on a social media platform.

Although it would indicate the scale of the problem in that if someone is willing to express such views openly and publicly then you can bet that there are many many more thinking the same thing privately.

cupfinalchaos · 13/10/2025 16:13

She can cut them all down now again the brainwashed idiot.. I’ll help her.. they’re HOME!!!!!

hihelenhi · 15/10/2025 00:01

The sainted ribbon-cutter has a sympathetic interview up on the BBC today and also the Times in which she attempts to justify herself. Friends in high places? And tells some quite obvious porkies,like not knowing what anniversary it was. And saying "we only ever hear about their lives mattering, nobody else's". Really, Nadia? Who is "we?"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ye19w98qxo

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