To be utterly disgusted by the woman cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating the October 7th victims in Muswell Hill yesterday morning

[AngeloMysterioso]

When Jewish people are being attacked and murdered on their way to synagogue on Yom Kippur

When you literally can’t move or look in any direction without Palestine Palestine Palestine in our faces

On the eve of the anniversary of the worst atrocity committed against Jewish people since the Holocaust, a small, unobtrusive memorial for the victims of that unthinkable, barbaric attack was destroyed yesterday by a despicable woman who turned up with scissors and cut the ribbons down, one by one.

Ribbons for women and girls who were raped and murdered.
Ribbons for babies ripped from their parents’ arms and slaughtered.
Ribbons for men beaten to death.
Ribbons for the hostages still suffering every moment.

And this disgusting individual took it upon herself to come along with a pair of scissors and cut each one away. Her excuse? They “condone genocide”.

Let’s not pretend for a moment that that was her true motivation. It was a revolting demonstration of the antisemitism that has become so shamefully rife in this country that it sickens me.

This woman needs to be named and shamed for the loathsome person she is.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/07/woman-filmed-cutting-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages/

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-woman-ribbons-israel-hostages-london-manchester-synagogue-b1251594.html

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-commemorating-israeli-hostages-in-north-london-5HjdF2y2/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15167737/amp/woman-cuts-yellow-ribbons-israeli-hostages-london.html

https://inews.co.uk/news/anger-woman-filmed-cutting-down-ribbons-london-memorial-israeli-hostages-3961369

It then follows that if Jews, and only Jews, can commit hate crimes against their own demographic that we then have a case of a gentle justice system imposing their view of Good Jew/ Bad Jew on the Jewish community within their national borders. We all know where that has led to in the past.

I don’t think it would be a good precedent to allow any gentile justice system to decide which Jews are ‘bad Jews’.

Nonsense. Everyone in the UK is subject to the same laws, including hate crime offenses, should they be commited. Utterly bizarre calling it a "gentile" justice system, talk about othering.

I don't know where you got that information from but it's incorrect. There's no statement on the Crown Prosecution Service definition and process for hate crimes about privileged or less privileged demographics. It's the demographic of the victim that counts, not the perpetrator and people can absolutely be found to have committed a hate crime against their own demographic.

The police and the CPS have agreed the following definition for identifying and flagging hate crimes:
"Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice, based on a person's disability or perceived disability; race or perceived race; or religion or perceived religion; or sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation or transgender identity or perceived transgender identity."
There is no legal definition of hostility so we use the everyday understanding of the word which includes ill-will, spite, contempt, prejudice, unfriendliness, antagonism, resentment and dislike.

I'm not really interested in quibbling over whether it was a hate crime or not. It was a trashy, harmful thing to do and her intention was hateful and divisive.

I find your efforts at conflation with a previous catastrophic persecution of Jews really misleading and distasteful.

Families with a member serving in the IDF would tie them outside their homes while they were serving in a conflict.

Do you have a reference or link please?

The yellow ribbon originally stood for support our troops

"Support our Troops" yellow ribbon appears to be a US initiative rather than Israeli, started during the Gulf War, although prior to that yellow ribbons were used as a symbol of support for the hostages held at the US embassy in Tehran.

Only since 7 Oct have they been also used to represent civilian Israelis held hostage by Hamas

Civilians and soldiers were taken hostage on 7 October.

I think a significant minority of protesters share the same opinion as this, especially if you look at the number of supporting comments.

https://youtube.com/shorts/1arz3VaOaFU?si=jhdta-EmgQqzvxHp

They crowded around the truck carrying Shani Louk’s beautiful, broken body and spat on her corpse.

I remember that and will never forget it. It burnt my eyes. That was the first I heard of the pogrom, early on 7 October two years ago. The 'heroic' men parading her body, with her head smashed in and her clothes ripped off, were laughing. The crowds were cheering and spitting at her. It wasn't certain at the time whether she was still alive and possibly even conscious. I was hoping to god she was safely dead.

And yes, that and the other Hamas atrocities affected my view of the entire conflict.

I hate wars, with whole cities being bombed and thousands of civilians killed. But abducting, torturing, raping and mutilating is a whole different level of evil.

@LeftieRightsHoarder it was the first thing I saw too - just idly scrolling X and there was this horror, like the body of a deer with a hunting party, a man's booted foot resting on her. Throngs of men and young boys excitedly jeering at and trying to hit her. Her leg at a sickening, unnatural angle.
Like you, I hoped she was beyond suffering.

I'd been a vocal critic of Israel for many years, and at that point a switch just flipped in my brain.

I really dont care what an anti semite has to say about anything related to Jews to be honest

The post in this chain that I was referring to was still there, the one from yesterday at 04.57?

Pardon? You might make more sense if you put in a bit of punctuation. This thread is close to 1000 so will close, probably just as well.

Anti semite complains about lack of punctuation.
Its incomprehensible why the Jews would do such a thing when they are meant to be the people of the book

You think there are different levels of evil depending on whether the evil was done to an Israeli woman or not? Please clarify as that seems to be what you are saying here. How is sniping at children queuing for food less evil than another evil?

There’s been a couple of things in the Times about her. “The Palestinian husband of a woman who was seen cutting down yellow ribbons commemorating Jewish hostages in Gaza has claimed that he and his wife have been attacked by a group of people “probably working for Mossad”, the Israeli intelligence agency”. There are a lot of comments along the lines of Mossad is a bit busy to be interested in these people.

I suspect that this couple are quite often fairly unpleasant about Israel and are now rather surprised to find that a lot of people find this distasteful.

Indeed

The pp who said you can only commit a hate crime against someone less privileged than you are... what? How would a court figure that out? Hmm, one person is white, and the other is black, but the white person has been in the care system, but the black person has a hidden disability, but the white person is a single mum, but the black person has a trust fund... A crude example, but how the hell would you imagine a court being able to work out who is more 'privileged' than someone else?

Of course a Jewish person can commit an antisemitic hate crime. It's very fucked up, though. I assume this person is absolutely steeped in woke bullshit like the idea of 'privilege' too.

That's not true. There was a case where some Asian guys were convicted of a hate crime against a white guy. What is true is that we don't want Gentiles deciding who the good Jews are.

When it came out that this was a Jewish woman, you had non-Jews online actually saying that she can't be Jewish because all Jewish people are pro-Israel. They had no idea that anyone could be Jewish and feel like she did. For the record, I find her actions disgusting even if we have more closely aligned views on the conflict.

I have very personal views on her actions and what they signify.

But this idea of saying that people like Michael Rosen isn't Jewish because of his political views is Antisemitism. The idea of creating a category of good Jews who support right wing politics and bad Jews who do not is a tool for white supremacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

I never said it was true. I said it was a stupid idea.

One would think that with the current fragile ceasefire that Mossad might just have more important things on their "to do list":

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/israel-hostage-ribbon-mossad-nadia-yahlom-husband-muswell-hill-london-b1252426.html

The failure by Hamas to distribute aid once it arrives is the cause of starvation.

www.cbsnews.com/amp/live-updates/israel-hamas-peace-deal-live-updates-gaza-ceasefire-day-1/

“As part of the deal outlined by Mr. Trump, Israel will release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners in exchange for the Israeli hostages, and allow the immediate provision of "full aid" to Gaza, which has faced severe food shortages and has fallen into famine in some regions, according to the world's leading authority on food crises.”

Wait I thought you said Israel wasn’t blocking the aid to begin with?

Yep. They stopped their operations in Iran and turned their attention to a ribbon cutter from muswell Hill 😅