Murder

[Frankblackwife]

Do you think you could get away with it?

Jeez… we need a 😮emoji!!

I love the fact that it is always something seemingly small and benign that trips them up in these real life cases.

As others have said the only time I would think about this is if someone seriously hurt one of my children. My method would be opioid drugs. I'd buy up supplies from homeless people slowly then lace their drink with massive amounts so they'd overdose. Or, I obviously haven't done this, but if required id try and buy Fentanyl on the dark web using a vpn in a library or similar.

I'd say no because of CCTV etc, but given they haven't found the guy who pushed the woman in front of the bus in London despite the footage, maybe I'm too trusting in the system.

In reality its very hard to pull off nowadays. I would say nearly impossible if you are known to the victim. Police are much more competent and have been hugely enabled by tech.There is a digital record of every move you make.

Its generally a first attempt, and as with any first attempt at a task, it often goes wrong. Some of the ways in which "clever" people who have planned it carefully get caught are laughable. In the US Joel Guy Junior (who murdered both parents) left a "To do list" at the crime scene. The first item on his list was "Get killing knives". He went to a school for gifted kids, so not an IQ issue.

I imagine most people who get away with murder do so because of limited resources to investigate and luck rather than them being masterminds with careful plans in place.

I know this is a jokey thread but your opinion on homeless people is vile.

Women are by far the biggest group of people that watch crime dramas and documentaries and listen to true crime podcasts, yet most (caught) serial killers are men...

Could it be that there are scores of female serial killers out there that are literally getting away with murder through everything the TV has taught them?!

Oh shut up I havent expressed an opinion on homlesness ir homelsee people. Have you been to San Francisco? I go several times a year.

Why did my brain go straight to "ooh - you could take them out and then go on a random tour of the UK dropping a singular tooth in a bit in each location"?!

I have a couple of relatives who are / were in the police. They say they only catch people because criminals are thick.

A few years ago when VHS was still a think my cousin went out to a woman whose TV and VHS player had been stolen, and then she added the detail that they had also taken a wheelie bin.

So my cousin looked out the window at the snow. He then followed the tracks of the wheelie bin to where it had been taken. It must have been one of the quickest arrests ever.

Finely ground glass, when ingested, is supposed to be undetectable isn't it?

Put it in a sandwich ?

Although i wouldn't know how to go about grinding glass .... decent pestle and mortar, gloves, goggles and a lot of patience i guess?

Nah.

Coffee grinder.

Unlikely. Decades’ old murders are increasingly being solved.

Oh gosh I have nightmares all the time about covering my tracks after a murder and every time I make some kind of error. Then I wake up in a sweat with a pounding heart and have to calm down and remember that I haven’t killed anyone and it’s all fine. But I end up in a right tizz that can last ages.

Clearly in my subconscious I am murdering a lot of people.

Fuck no! I look guilty as sin all the time. Despite having never committed a crime. I get pulled over at the airport every single time! But I wouldn't want or need to murder someone anyway. Unless they were trying to murder me and then it would be manslaughter but also self defence. I'd rather just try and run away!

That would be my worry. I'd commit the perfect murder and get away with it. But in 20 years or so, unimaginable tech would be invented which would lead the police straight to me. Worrying!

Well, the police said that this guy would have gotten away with it if he had just left the country instead of trying to dispose of the bodies:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy9xr81vq3zt

Me too! I like to think I just don't have murder in me... but if I HAD to, I'd go the 'dotty old lady' defence - 'I thought he/she was attacking me!' Being over 60 has its advantages...

In reality, although I'm over 60 I'm a lot fitter and faster than most people, and I'd just run away.

Perfect, as you could serve them the coffee with it in and noone might know!! You could even argue that the glass must have been accidentally in the coffee beans (not uncommon to have foreign objects in food items) and sue them to get a payout!!

There is a digital record of every move you make

Bit of an exaggeration there @Gallowayan e.g what I said earlier about going to an internet cafe.

Miss Marple would be onto you in a flash. She'd notice that you said you were at the church social when you couldn't have been because the vicar's wife had asked you to fetch the hand-sewn cossacks and then it would be all up with you! You murdering hag. What did Colonel Bagshot do to you, eh?

You can use a coffee grinder to grind spices for curry so that might be another method.

Dyeing my hair convinced me I would never get away with it.

It's sobering how absolutely meticulous you can be - and I mean totally obsessively planned out - with drop cloths, hand towels and everything set up. Super careful and have everything covered.

But there is always a splash, handprint or smear somewhere! every damn time!

It showed me that forensics would always get me in the end.

Great thread! I agree it’s a little harder these days due to technology. We are all caught on cctv pretty much wherever we go - so if you managed to avoid the cameras somehow, it might be equally suspicious that you weren’t seen on camera elsewhere to corroborate an alibi! In fact, it would be very hard to get an alibi unless you can find a way of disguising the time of death. Alternatively, you’d have to make sure the body was never found. That way a time of death couldn’t be established, making it much easier for you to claim to be visiting person x or whatever!

He gave that saucy strumpet Miss Smith the first prize rosette in the fruit cake competition <purses lips> from that moment his goose was cooked!