To finally agree with a junior doctors strike

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Junior doctors have decided to strike as they are being overlooked for jobs / training posts which are instead given to international applicants. I’ve always abhorred their money grabbing strikes in the past, but support this one 100%. UK doctors should be recruited where possible, and international graduates only turned to where we cannot find a suitable recruit in the UK.

inky?

What is the merit of someone with 20 years experience completing with someone with 2 years experience?

on queue?

FOI

Peter Prinsley a retired ENT consultant is concerned and BMA are too.

Also I absolutely don’t hate any med school graduates, from whatever country. I just don’t think the not competent ones should get training posts.

This just shows applicants, not job offers or success rates ?
Where is the evidence that UK applicants are not given priority?

Wouldn’t the immigration skills charge apply?
https://www.davidsonmorris.com/immigration-skills-charge/

@PurpleFairyLightspretty much every senior doctor not making money from IMGs is behind a change. Even Wes is. It's madness to train doctors and then not employ over 50% of them.

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice nope. They've not applied for years. Everyone who applies, from anywhere in the world, gets same priority. Silly isn't it ?

But it’s not madness. It’s a deliberate policy.

DavidsonMorris says they still apply. I linked their guide dated August 2025.

Then he is wrong. It's v easy to google

Absolutely. Their disgust of UK medical graduates and UK training is a serious concern. Luckily they are obviously not a doctor.

Unfortunately the pack will be along soon.

Who cares?

It’s barely worth repeating what has been said by myself and so many others over so many threads.

This is a separate point about a teacher’s repeated spelling errors. Entirely unconnected to the point about provision of training posts but perfectly valid in itself.

DavidsonMorris is an employment solicitor’s firm, not a person.

His Majesty’s government is also under the impression that the Immigration Skills Charge paid by employers sponsoring a skilled worker to migrate to the UK are still due as well ?
https://www.gov.uk/uk-visa-sponsorship-employers/immigration-skills-charge

If the worker will be in the UK for longer than 6 months but less than a year, you must pay for at least 12 months.
You must pay the full charge in one go.
The longest you can sponsor a worker for is 5 years, so the most you’ll have to pay is:

• £1,820 (5 x £364) if you’re a small or charitable sponsor
• £5,000 (5 x £1,000) if you’re a medium or large sponsor

UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) will contact you if you do not pay the charge or pay the wrong amount. You’ll have 10 working days to pay the charge - the worker’s visa application will be refused if you do not.

Would not this extra cost and faff mean that there is a de facto preference for UK applicants?

Me for one.

I can’t imagine any of the consultants who annihilated a number of posters on all of the other threads will have any remaining appetite tbh. I’m travelling atm so while I’m having to endure a long wait I’m happy to flick a comment or two in, and to point out inky.

https://thesavvyimg.co.uk/apply-for-the-uk-foundation-programme-as-an-img/

But once I’m in France I’ll have much better things to do :)

Ignoring the obvious personal history between two posters the OP is right.
I have no skin in the game but several of my DCs peers went into medicine. After Five years at med school and two more as foundation doctors they all came up against a brick wall for future jobs and training. To become a specialist takes many years and to start they need a training place. It used to be a routine matter to get such a place but now there are few and the competition is immense. As someone said the overseas doctors who want to come to the UK tend to get most of these jobs because they are more experienced.
Of the four young doctors I know, two left medicine and two went abroad. I have no reason to believe they were rubbish. They were all A*students who had strived to do medicine since they were very young.

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice then that company need to lose their licence !