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Please continue to protest!

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Icreatedausernameyippee · 03/10/2025 23:46

In the wake of the tragic events that took place in Manchester, I want to implore people not to lose steam or, more importantly, hope.

Gaza is still facing destruction, famine and genocide.

We need to continue to peacefully pressure our government to take action and sanction the Israeli government and to educate and inform people about the horrors faced by the Palestinian people day in and day out for the last two years.

People who opposed the liberation of Palestine want for this to be a turning point. For people to point the finger at a movement that wants to see the end of the suffering of millions and label it as inciting hate.

It's not.
And it's important.

Please don't put down your passion for Gaza.

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Icreatedausernameyippee · 04/10/2025 11:57

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 11:56

Unless you're someone who was involved in campaigning for Gaza and is now feeling discouraged.

A ceasefire is on the table

And then Israel dropped a few more bombs.

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Absentosaur · 04/10/2025 11:58

Bundleflower · 04/10/2025 11:46

Why haven’t you included ‘anti-semitism’ in that?

I’d actually say I’m one of the more neutral posters on this thread so why would I be interested in shutting anybody down?

Some posters got close to the line with their views on Israel, those posts were rightly removed. Do you not see the double standards that when I pointed out there’s quite a lot of Islamophobia that you immediately jumped to insisting it’s not? Would you have accepted this the other way around? No you wouldn’t.

I wasn’t actually aiming it at you or your post. It just prompted my post that’s all.

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 11:58

Stirring hatred for hatred sake.

That's it really isn't it.

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 04/10/2025 11:58

Icreatedausernameyippee · 04/10/2025 11:32

"Why do you care to look beyond the end of your nose when I do not care to look beyond the end of mine?"

I care personally because I have a teenage son of Palestinian decent. I care because every child that's murdered in Palestine reminds me of him. Beyond that I care because people, innocent men women and children, are being slaughtered.
I cared before October 7th. I've been speaking out against the monstrous actions of Israel for 15 years.
That's why I care.

Right, and your son is alive, well and safe. Take solace in that. Hug him tight every day and remind him how much you love him. Appreciate that he's alive and healthy.

It really amazes me that people will feel horrible for deaths in conflicts elsewhere in the world but seem to cope exceptionally hard when it comes to abortion considering at least 80% of them are elective. The number of children being killed in this stupid conflict is outstripped massively by how many babies have been aborted since the abhorrent practice was enshrined in law in the 1960s. And then the recent amendment to the bill to make it legal to abort babies beyond the 24 week limit (when a loss is a stillbirth and not a miscarriage). Oh and then the assisted dying bill which will be abused in every way imaginable. It genuinely makes my stomach churn at how life is treated with such disdain.

And yet you want the pro-Palestine protests to continue? To make Jews terrified? Do you really care about life as much as you say? Or is it just certain walks of life?

Cleikumstovies · 04/10/2025 11:59

If you say, you have the right to protest, continue to do so whatever then you are supporting the right to protest outside asylum hotels, you support the flying of flags of whatever legal cause? Right to protest within the law is ones right....

DrPrunesqualer · 04/10/2025 11:59

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 04/10/2025 11:14

Because it's clear as day to most people with a working brain that protesting on behalf of Palestine right now is going to make Jews even more frightened. I don't know if you're aware, but Jews got killed in a terrorist attack last week.

That has nothing to do with protesting for peace in Gaza

there’s an excellent article in The Guardian regarding the inflammatory nature of incorrectly connecting the two

Rubes24 · 04/10/2025 12:04

I think it is possible to be disgusted, outraged and devastated by the Manchester Attacks and still strongly disagree with the killing of so many children and civillians in the Gaza Strip. Equally, I think it is possible to be horrified by the October 7th attacks and also feel that the situation in Gaza has now become completely unconscionable. It is possible to criticise Hamas without being an Islamaphobe and to criticise the Israeli Government without being an Antisemite.

Unfortunately I feel many of those who attend the pro Palestine marches are indeed Anti Semetic. I feel heartbroken that extremists on all sides continue to damage hope of peace. In terms of the OPs request that people attended marches for Palestine this weekend, I think that in respect of the Jewish Community it should be cancelled. That does not mean I believe that everyone who wishes to March for Gaza is Antisemitic, but those who are will continue to use this tragic situation to push their own agenda.

My heart goes out to all the British Jews who are feeling scared and under attack today. ✡️

Icreatedausernameyippee · 04/10/2025 12:05

Cleikumstovies · 04/10/2025 11:59

If you say, you have the right to protest, continue to do so whatever then you are supporting the right to protest outside asylum hotels, you support the flying of flags of whatever legal cause? Right to protest within the law is ones right....

Of course people have the right to protest as they see fit, and counter protest, too.
We can't pick and choose what opinions people get to hold.

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sunflower1022 · 04/10/2025 12:05

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What is wrong with you?

This can’t be real, nobody could possibly this stupid.

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 12:06

I believe in the right to protest but just pause the march for one weekend. That's all, show some respect as the government has asked.

MyLimeGuide · 04/10/2025 12:07

HappyGolmore2 · 04/10/2025 11:47

They're clearly not pointless, just look at the reaction on here for starters.
Protesting more deaths is not showing a lack of respect for other deaths, only a fool would think that calling for an end to genocide is somehow showing a lack of humanity.
Lack of humanity could be construed as ignoring or excusing the deaths of 10s of thousands of civilians.

True, they do have a point i guess! Keeping us Saturday layabouts entertained with something to argue about ✌

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/10/2025 12:07

sunflower1022 · 04/10/2025 12:05

What is wrong with you?

This can’t be real, nobody could possibly this stupid.

The generation who get their history from TikTok.

Iamfree · 04/10/2025 12:08

@Icreatedausernameyippee remember that Hamas has surrendered. What are you going to protest now? Waiting for the hostages to be released but I hope Israel continues its mission of getting rid of terrorism. It will help the west too. Admin, please don’t delete this. How can you censure people who are against terrorism?

clipboardz · 04/10/2025 12:08

Now that I have made that clear, I will go and look at less disturbing, hate filled anti semitic threads.

They are awful, so much hate but important for it to be seen.

DomPom47 · 04/10/2025 12:08

Definitely agree with you OP. But I have very little hope. Anyone who doubts what is happening in Gaza need to ask themselves what the word Nakba means and read a sentence or two of what this was. They need to look at the work that B’Tselem and Yesh Din do. They need to ask themselves why is the only peaceful democracy in the Middle East not allowing journalists in? Entire families in Gaza have been wiped out. This is a genocide. If going on a march means a few more people think about finding out the truth of what is going on I will carry on marching. If going on a march means some politicians change their way of thinking I will carry on marching. If going on a march means that some how the news gets to Palestine and gives them some hope I will carry on marching. It is my right in this country. I march with people of all faiths and none and a range of different backgrounds. My kids join me on the marches and as a mother I am proud. If I were alive and in the UK during the anti apartheid movement I would have joined.

NototerrorismIntheUK · 04/10/2025 12:09

HappyGolmore2 · 04/10/2025 11:47

They're clearly not pointless, just look at the reaction on here for starters.
Protesting more deaths is not showing a lack of respect for other deaths, only a fool would think that calling for an end to genocide is somehow showing a lack of humanity.
Lack of humanity could be construed as ignoring or excusing the deaths of 10s of thousands of civilians.

Quite a lot of the reaction is to the tone deaf nature of marchers given the terrorist attack in the UK. Just pause and think about what you chant on UK Jewish people. That's all.

There is a peace deal on the table, hopefully that goes ahead and holds. So no need to shout ceasefire fire. The marchers don't really make any difference to what is decided by Trump, Israel and Arab nations anyway.

MyLimeGuide · 04/10/2025 12:10

Iamfree · 04/10/2025 12:08

@Icreatedausernameyippee remember that Hamas has surrendered. What are you going to protest now? Waiting for the hostages to be released but I hope Israel continues its mission of getting rid of terrorism. It will help the west too. Admin, please don’t delete this. How can you censure people who are against terrorism?

Admin don't delete threads, other users that don't agree with you report the comments then they automatically get deleted.

Paulrn · 04/10/2025 12:11

Can’t support HAMAS in any way shape or form just murderers and terrorists.

Violetparis · 04/10/2025 12:12

HappyGolmore2 · 04/10/2025 11:47

They're clearly not pointless, just look at the reaction on here for starters.
Protesting more deaths is not showing a lack of respect for other deaths, only a fool would think that calling for an end to genocide is somehow showing a lack of humanity.
Lack of humanity could be construed as ignoring or excusing the deaths of 10s of thousands of civilians.

2 days after a terrorist attack taking police resources away from Jewish communities who are terrified shows a lack of humanity.
Marching, protesting alongside people chanting anti semetic slogans shows a lack of humanity. Not caring about the innocent lives being destroyed in Palestine show a lack of humanity. I think all of these things.

DrPrunesqualer · 04/10/2025 12:15

Absentosaur · 04/10/2025 11:35

The perpetrator whose name was Jihad (from birth). Do you know what that means?

Do you understand its implications? Actually you mustn’t understand the implication of ‘Jihad’ because if you did, there’s no way you’d be marching to protect and further the interests of Hamas.

The protests were arranged before the Manchester attack
People protesting are not doing so in support of the attack , that’s ridiculously misunderstood

Why do you assume it’s all about Jewish people, why do some people have to always think it’s all about them.

The Jewish religion and Jewish people are irrelevant to the protests. Netanyahu and his Government are the perpetrators of genocide and them alone.
The protests support peace

DrPrunesqualer · 04/10/2025 12:18

NototerrorismIntheUK · 04/10/2025 12:09

Quite a lot of the reaction is to the tone deaf nature of marchers given the terrorist attack in the UK. Just pause and think about what you chant on UK Jewish people. That's all.

There is a peace deal on the table, hopefully that goes ahead and holds. So no need to shout ceasefire fire. The marchers don't really make any difference to what is decided by Trump, Israel and Arab nations anyway.

The peace deal hasn’t been fully agreed and Israel havent fully stood down yet although Hamas have agreed to release all hostages
So shouting ceasefire is fully relevant

Or don’t you not want one

BerryTwister · 04/10/2025 12:19

ShazMidlands · 04/10/2025 00:30

It isn't genocide, Israel could wipe every living creature off the face of the Gaza strip if it chose to. A genocide is trying to kill every living thing, not attempting to target Hamas -a terrorist organisation who hides behind children's hospitals and schools. If Palestine had the weapons Israel had, Israel wouldn't exist at all. Israel is a nuclear power that could blow Palestine off the face of the Earth so no it isn't a "genocide"

@ShazMidlands many impartial official experts have stated it’s a genocide. Israel are committing genocide against Palestine, and if there is rising antisemitism as a result, then that is partly the fault of the Israeli leaders. My Gran’s generation hated Germans. They weren’t born hating Germans, but they ended up hating them, because of the actions of German leaders.
People will protest against the Palestinian genocide until the Israeli government stop doing it.

Icreatedausernameyippee · 04/10/2025 12:22

DrPrunesqualer · 04/10/2025 12:18

The peace deal hasn’t been fully agreed and Israel havent fully stood down yet although Hamas have agreed to release all hostages
So shouting ceasefire is fully relevant

Or don’t you not want one

Hamas have agreed to release hostages on several occasions and Israel have declined.

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DrPrunesqualer · 04/10/2025 12:23

Icreatedausernameyippee · 04/10/2025 11:42

Wanting Palestine to be free from Israel is not equal to supporting Hamas.
Wanting Israel to stop bombing Palestinian schools, hospitals and refugee camps as well as building illegal settlements is not equal to anti-Semitism.

Anyone who wholeheartedly supports the actions of Israel at this point can only be one of three things. Willfully ignorant, entirely brainwashed or simply evil.

Excellent post OP

DomPom47 · 04/10/2025 12:25

sunflower1022 · 04/10/2025 12:05

What is wrong with you?

This can’t be real, nobody could possibly this stupid.

IDF/Israeli soldiers abusing Palestinians (dog attack on a boy, soldiers laughing, cheering from hilltops, firing at people fleeing)
There are Israeli-language media reports and Israeli NGOs documenting such incidents. Example: Israeli press covered a leaked video (2015) that showed soldiers setting dogs on a Palestinian teen and the IDF opened an investigation; Israeli human-rights org B’Tselem also reported and documented dog-attacks and other incidents. Breaking the Silence has published soldier testimonies of abuses. There are also numerous reports in Israeli press (Haaretz, Times of Israel) about videos and incidents over the years.

Settlers / right-wing protesters chant ‘Death to the Arabs’ and commit violence.
Israeli press (Haaretz, Times of Israel, others) have reported multiple incidents where right-wing protesters/settlers chanted dehumanising slogans and where settlers were involved in violent attacks. Haaretz produced pieces specifically documenting “Death to the Arabs” chants and links between settler violence and political figures.

Pro-Palestine Israeli citizens get arrested / harassed
Israeli media and video coverage show arrests and heavy policing of pro-Palestine protests inside Israel/occupied areas; activists have been arrested and clashes have been widely reported in Israeli outlets.

Israeli leaders say ‘starve them’, ‘gather them and blow them up’, or use dehumanizing language.
Several pieces in Israeli media and human rights reports document incendiary/dehumanising rhetoric from some Israeli officials and public figures since October 2023. Israeli newspapers (Haaretz) have catalogued rhetorical dehumanisation by right-wing ministers and public figures; Israeli human-rights NGOs (B’Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights – Israel) have accused the government’s rhetoric and policies of amounting to or supporting genocidal conduct.

Israel ‘has zero interest in giving back land’ — videos/speeches show this”
Israeli media documents explicit political positions from certain political leaders (especially far-right coalition members) opposing territorial concession; Haaretz and others have analysed government policy and statements showing reluctance to return land in many contexts.

They hate all Arabs/Muslims/Christians/Blacks — chants, school indoctrination, rape etc.
Hate incidents and racist chants are documented (see Haaretz reporting on chants, B’Tselem reports, and investigations into racist policing).

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