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Lasted 1 week living with MIL.

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OneBluntApple · 03/10/2025 14:04

Bit of background: I’m 34, have a 9-year-old DS and am 29 weeks pregnant on maternity leave. Me and DP have sold our house and are waiting to move into a new one, so to tide us over we stayed at MIL’s. We expected to be there 8–9 weeks but only lasted one week.

We moved in last Thursday and within days it became clear she was smoking and drinking in the house every night. I knew she smoked, but I thought it was just at weekends outside while she had a little glass of wine. Instead, she smoked in the kitchen every night while we were upstairs with the door shut trying to escape it. DS said he felt sick from the smoke one evening. I thought as I’m pregnant and have a child, she’d smoke outside, but when DP raised it she just moved to standing outside directly under our bedroom window. She even made a snide comment to DP’s brother and his girlfriend that she’d “been told off for smoking.” She hadn’t, she just asked why we sat upstairs all the time and my partner said it’s because of the smoke.

As well as the smoking she was quite overbearing with me. She would try to do my DS’s breakfast on a morning before school and make his packed lunches. Then in the evening she would want to make us all dinner which I said was really lovely, but my partner and I said politely we will make our own food. Partly because her portion sizes were huge and she’d serve desserts that we wouldn’t touch. We had two roast dinners in the space of three days followed by cakes and cheesecakes. I said that we’d cook for ourselves and she didn’t need to make my son’s lunches or breakfast as I enjoy doing it.

I would buy the food to make our meals and my partners work lunches etc and she would always say I’ll do the shopping which I didn’t need her to as it gave me something to do in the afternoon as I was on maternity and I was bored. I did communicate all this with her but she didn’t seem to like it.

I could understand if we were there visiting over the holidays, but we’ve moved in with her to live there. I wasn’t a guest and I didn’t need to be mothered. It felt like she was taking away any independence I had left. I appreciate she wanted to help me, but it was becoming too much. I couldn’t even do my own washing or feed my own child. When I made my partner‘s lunches, she would say that I “spoiled him” but it felt like deep down she wanted to be the one making it. She was always telling me to sit down but she knows I really enjoy cooking.

On top of this, I’ve also struggled to watch her speak to her husband who has got Parkinson’s. She constantly belittled him and swore at him. I told my partner as it was very upsetting.

Yesterday, everything came to a head. DP called her at 1:30pm to say we’d be going back to our old house, mainly due to the smoking. He made sure to say there’s no hard feelings and we were just struggling a little bit as a family not having our own space. She said “yeah ok if that’s what you want.” he called me after to say there was no hard feelings and she’s okay.

When I came back from the school run DP was already there and DP’s cousin was visiting with her children. As soon as I got to the door MIL started a blazing row with me in front of everyone. She told me she was “very cross with me!” which felt so belittling — talking to me like a child. DP stepped in straight away and said “don’t speak to her like that, why are you doing this you said everything was fine earlier?” but MIL just said “well it’s not fine this hasn’t gone through way I planned!” and carried on blaming me. She was shouting at me saying I knew she smoked and I said I didn’t know that and if I had have I wouldn’t have come. But she continued to shout at me saying yes you did know etc.

I ended up going upstairs, packing up mine and DS’s things, and leaving. She then had a massive row with DP, saying everything was my fault. She even said about me “she didn’t have a problem with me smoking when I watched her son for her,” which shocked me because I had no idea she smoked around DS when he stayed there — and I don’t understand how she thinks that’s okay.

AIBU to feel shocked, angry and like I’ve done nothing wrong here?

All I wanted was to get through a few weeks until our move. We’ve had the house move from hell which has been dragging on for the past three months. I’m due a baby in 11 weeks, the house we’re moving into needs work doing before we can live in it and my partner is currently working two jobs. This really is the last thing he or I needed. I just don’t understand how she can say she’s angry? At what? If anything I should be angry at her for smoking round us but rather than making her feel like a guest in her own home we’ve chosen to leave so she can continue her life.

OP posts:
poetryandwine · 03/10/2025 15:08

Where are PP getting the idea that OP has a house to go to? She has sold snd can’t move to her new place for a few more weeks.

OP, I think you were naive not to work on an agreement around MIL’s smoking before moving in or leaving DS in her care. I suspect the tension around this and around the move is colouring your view of some of MIL’s other actions, which could be interpreted as attempts to be helpful. Also, you are not forced to eat the massive portions and nightly puddings she plops in front of you.

I agree at this stage it’s better for everyone if your family can make other arrangements but I think there are two sides here.

poetryandwine · 03/10/2025 15:10

Apologies, I see OP is going back to her old house. The mystery deepens

outerspacepotato · 03/10/2025 15:11

You expected her to change her ways in her own home while she hosted you during your wait to buy a new home.

You knew she smoked. You presumably knew she drank alcohol. You asked her to change her cooking with portion sizing in her own home. She was trying to help you out making your son's lunches and doing the food shopping and cooking. She even did start smoking outside. But do you not know how smoking works, there's residue left in her home? Surely that would have ruled out staying at hers at all if smoking was such an issue?

I don't know what you expected but it sounds like she was trying to be hospitable and very helpful with you already being on maternity leave and you just handed her her ass.

Smoking outside blows around. My next door neighbor's mom smokes outside and it blows in my window. I shut it and put on an air purifier.

You're the unreasonable one here.

Flakey99 · 03/10/2025 15:12

TotallyUnapologeticOmnivore · 03/10/2025 14:41

If you accept someone's hospitality, you take them as you find them.

I strongly disagree because smoking is both anti social and known to be harmful to children and pregnant women.

The OP was willing to accept that the MIL might smoke outdoors as many people do these days, but not in the kitchen where you prepare food FFS!

Presumably the MIL doesn’t smoke when she visits the OP?

Muffinmam · 03/10/2025 15:16

How could you not smell the smoke on your child after he came home?

Also, why have you moved back into a house that has sold? Where is your furniture?

starfishmummy · 03/10/2025 15:18

If your house is sold how can you move back?

35965a · 03/10/2025 15:20

TotallyUnapologeticOmnivore · 03/10/2025 14:41

If you accept someone's hospitality, you take them as you find them.

100%

Topseyt123 · 03/10/2025 15:21

You can't control what she does in her own house and shouldn't have expected to be able to. I'm not saying she's right to smoke around you and the children or to speak to you in her patronising way because she isn't, but as you are in her home it's her rules, so that puts you on a back foot.

My MIL was a heavy smoker, but only by the back door (usually open) even in her own house. The rest of the house wasn't smoked in and that was the compromise. We only visited every few weeks and the children were either in the garden or in the smoke free areas. If she visited our house she abided by our rules, which were that smoking could only be totally outside, on the drive or in the garden.

My parents were also both very heavy smokers. Few compromises with them - in the house with no doors or windows open except if they visited our house when we insisted they only smoked outside, whatever the weather. We rarely visited their house when the children were small. Once or twice a year if that and some years not at all, though they visited us.

I don't really see why you moved in with your MIL while you still had a house you could stay in. Also, I wouldn't have bothered fussing over her cooking meals and/or making my child's packed lunches. I'd have just left her to get on with that if she wished.

You'll need alternative accommodation arrangements if by the time of completion your new house is not liveable.

35965a · 03/10/2025 15:22

Flakey99 · 03/10/2025 15:12

I strongly disagree because smoking is both anti social and known to be harmful to children and pregnant women.

The OP was willing to accept that the MIL might smoke outdoors as many people do these days, but not in the kitchen where you prepare food FFS!

Presumably the MIL doesn’t smoke when she visits the OP?

Smoking when she visits OP is different though, she abides by OPs house rules and doesn’t smoke when she visits.

MIL did smoke outside when OP moaned about it then moaned again because it was under OPs bedroom window.

MIL did try to be more accommodating with it yet still got complained about.

tinyspiny · 03/10/2025 15:24

You were a bit naive to not ask her about her smoking habits before moving in as you know she smokes . WRT the dinners surely you just leave what you don’t want and say no to dessert . Why have you moved out of your old house if it’s still there to live in ?

RightOnTheEdge · 03/10/2025 15:33

YANBU about the smoking but YABU about the other stuff.

It's only been a week and you didn't even give it a chance to settle down.
You were quite rude and ungrateful about her cooking for you.
She was doing you a big favour and all you have done is moan about everything.

Diarygirlqueen · 03/10/2025 15:36

I think you've acted very rudely towards your mil.
You are trying to control her behaviour in her own home and asking her to stop making your son his lunches and refusing her dinners is petty and controlling.
It's better to leave her home and hope these issues resolve so you both can have a better relationship moving forward.

WalnutsAndFigs · 03/10/2025 15:36

You knew she smokes, so why be surprised that she smokes? If you choose to go live with a person that smokes, expect them to smoke.

The rest of the food stuff is nonsense, a straight forward chat could have ironed that out. She wanted to host. You don't want to be hosted.

Your tone here is heavy with contempt and frustration. Which I'm sure she felt from you, so she feels angry with you in a defensive way. She had a daydream of happy families, of looking after her son's family. The reality was disappointing. She felt hurt and rejected which is why she had a go at you. Obviously that's not great on her end to express her feelings like that, but neither of you smell of roses here.

C152 · 03/10/2025 15:38

YANBU at all about the smoking, though I'm surprised it wasn't apparent earlier how much she smoked. Did you not smell smoke on your child after your MIL babsat?

You are being unreasonable about the cooking and making of lunches. As you yourself said, you're due a baby in 11 weeks - maybe she thought you'd appreciate being taken care of and not having to go to the supermarket etc? You're also in her house, so if she wants to make main meals etc., suck it up for the few weeks you're staying there.

Addictforanex · 03/10/2025 15:43

Can see both sides here. I would really hate the smoking too, so much so I would not choose to move in with a smoker for 9 weeks. I don’t understand how you or your DH didn’t know she smoked - does any mature adult who smokes cigarettes only smoke at the weekends with a drink? Or hide they fact they are a smoker? Isn’t that the purview of the 20 somethings?

The kitchen stuff though YABU. I wouldn’t want people moving into my home, rejecting / looking down their nose up at my food and way of eating and insisting on using my kitchen as they saw fit without cooking for me. A simple, “half portion for me MIL”, “no thank you, no dessert for me” isn’t difficult.

The making packed lunches and breakfast- surely she’s trying to be nice and help you out being heavily pregnant? Why not let her help “yes thanks MIL he has x,y and x for his packed lunches, really appreciate it”. This novelty would have worn off soon enough for her anyway probably.

So YANBU about not wanting to be around her smoking if she led you to believe she was a non smoker, but YABU to treat her home like a free self catering AirB&B, one that the owner inconveniently still lives in!

DeliaOwens · 03/10/2025 15:43

YABVVVU to think you can tell (not ask) someone what to do in their own home.

You had preconceived notions on how it was all going to work. Your MIL did too. They were not the same. Lesson learned.

DIYagainstMould · 03/10/2025 15:45

I am actually surprised that a lousy old woman who smokes is actually such a great active cook and makes even cakes every day, wow, including cheesecakes, wow.

About the smocking, no, no way, but looking after you, she was nice.

Not much to be said here, really. The woman is not a saint but not evil witch either.

Spookyspaghetti · 03/10/2025 15:46

You are not unreasonable about the smoking. My late DM smoked in the house, it’s been 8 years and I still have to rewash my hair and clothes after a visit to DF despite the house being visibly clean because it just lingers in the ceilings and walls. I would not have stayed there while pregnant back in the day. It doesn’t matter if it’s her ‘sanctuary,’ it’s a terrible idea to invite a pregnant woman to stay with you if you know you will be smoking all the time.

That said, all the stuff about the food and cooking was a bit ott on your part, it would have been easy to compromise. (You do breakfast and packed lunch but let MIL get on with dinner)

There are people I love who I would want to live with for more than a week and they probably feel the same. I think you need to all try and be grownups about it by admitting you also handled some aspects of the stay poorly. I’d keep not smoking around the grandkids as a red line though.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/10/2025 15:47

I think you should have had a conversation with her when you arrived, the longer you avoided the conversation, the bigger the frustration, there was a compromise to be had, she could have opened the windows to air the place out, if she didn't want to sit outside, used the extractor fan.
The food thing, well I wouldn't assume that I had free rein of the kitchen as a long-term guest.
It wouldn't have hurt to discuss it first.

Middlemarch123 · 03/10/2025 15:47

How can you go back to your old house if it’s sold?
It’s no longer yours to go back to.
I got the impression that you were currently between homes, and living with MIL until you moved into your new home.
think you’ve overreacted. MIL was putting herself out for you both.

Brindlegirl · 03/10/2025 15:48

You were going to stay 8-9 weeks? Then at the end of your post you say you just wanted to stay a few weeks? Then you were able to go back to your old house?

I wouldn't fancy staying with a smoker either, but you don't come across all that well yourself.

Addictforanex · 03/10/2025 15:51

The shouting and blaming you is OTT, but I expect she is hurt and embarrassed. There is no greater snub than walking out on her 1 week into a planned long stay. It’s the ultimate insult - like getting up and walking out a show, a film, a meal in a restaurant part way through, it has to be pretty bad to choose to do that, so much so I am not sure I have ever done it. She’ll be insulted and humiliated, and is lashing out.

MotherMary14 · 03/10/2025 15:52

I don't blame you for finding the smoking too much, but your attitude to staying with her was very weird. You approached it like you were moving into a house share rather than staying with your partner's mother and your son's grandmother, insisting on separate meals, separate shopping and so on. It must've come across as very standoffish.

LBFseBrom · 03/10/2025 15:55

LandOfFruitAndNut · 03/10/2025 14:07

YABU wanting to control what someone does in their own house.

I agree. She is entitled to smoke in her own home, she didn't smoke in the same room as you and the smell wafting up won't hurt you.

Because she cooked too much for your taste, you didn't have to eat it all. She was trying to help. What's wrong with having a pudding after main course? Most people do and enjoy it.

You could have negotiated smaller portions.

A week is not very long, it takes a bit of time to get used to different ways.

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 03/10/2025 15:56

Flakey99 · 03/10/2025 15:12

I strongly disagree because smoking is both anti social and known to be harmful to children and pregnant women.

The OP was willing to accept that the MIL might smoke outdoors as many people do these days, but not in the kitchen where you prepare food FFS!

Presumably the MIL doesn’t smoke when she visits the OP?

Presumably the MIL doesn’t smoke when she visits the OP?

How is that relevant? It is the MIL house and she can do what she wants. OP knew she was a smoker so they shouldn't have moved in to start with.

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