Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

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My DS was at school today and his teacher addressed the class saying “I don’t want to hear from you unless you need the toilet, you’re in pain or injured.” My DS raised his hand and said “I’m pain and injured is kind of the same thing.” Another teacher overheard and shouted at him so much he was crying and still crying about it at bedtime.

obviously I only have his account of the incident so this is all the detail I have. He didn’t think he had said anything wrong. I’ve noticed this year he’s complained of strict scary teachers and he’s becoming anxious about going to school. Would appreciate opinions on whether this apparently very big telling off was justified. He said his friends were comforting afterwards and he was crying and apologising whilst the teacher continued to shout.

Yes exactly 😢

Late to the party, but agree with others that his back chat was an issue. He needs to learn to be quiet and not question every single comment.

I'm so sorry your dear Son experienced this 😢God bless him & you
You know your own Son & he couldn't fake this amount of upset distress & tears 😳😔It's heartbreaking 💔
Small wonder our Beloved Children can suffer with school refusal & avoidance
I'm so reassured your dear Son can open up to his lovely understanding Mum so well
This is a huge part of the battle overcome
I'm praying for the utmost very best for You&Yours 💚

Plenty of teachers on this thread have also said that the likelihood of the teacher actually shouting at a 6yo as opposed to talking firmly or sternly, is very, very unlikely. But it is common for children to report it as shouting if they've never been pulled up on their behaviour before.

I can see why some people may find that a bit cheeky, but it’s definitely not something worthy of being shouted at for. Teachers shouldn’t be shouting at pupils at all IMO.

Exactly. Children also cry for different reasons - part of going to school is getting used to being 'told off' by other adults in authority.

Thoughts and prayers.

I'll have your guts for garters i was told off one teacher in junior school. I didn't understand wtf she meant?!

I'm afraid it is cheeky.
If your friend said it, you might ask for clarification. However, he was interrupting in class.

I get you and it is sad. Kids are being born with autism and adhd in record numbers though. Rather than deny that we need to be asking what the hell is going on that's causing it. I'm autistic so it's been going on for a long time although they say mine is genetic because it's part of a genetic disorder I have. I don't believe for a second it's innocent. Nor do I believe it's a gift. It's an infliction and I for one want to know why kids are being born to suffer. Something big will come out sooner or later. Sorry I wandered off on a tangent there. I just adore kids and see their little struggles and things for what they are, their limited understanding and capabilities due to their level of development. Too many people are nasty about them and say they're being bad. Maybe older kids but not little ones under 10.

Oooh big crime. Being a bit cheeky. Let’s yell at him.

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I was addressing the posters who have defended shouting and losing their tempers. Also, those who say having a quiet word with a teacher would be a problem.

Wouldn't you want to know if a pupil of yours was crying at bedtime about what happened in your classroom?

Well, exactly. It isn’t a big crime for a child to be cheeky and it isn’t a big deal to be told off when that happens.

Little boy is silly (or a ‘bit cheeky’).
Little boy is told off.
Little boy doesn’t like being told off.
Little boy doesn’t disrupt the class again for a while.

Perfect solution for all in the classroom ! Tale as old as time and no big deal if the parents stop indulging their child’s outrage at being called out for poor behaviour. Help them to learn from it and don’t find ways to excuse it.

Ultimately, parents need to parent and stop the momma bear nonsense.The overreaction shows a need for resilience from both child and parent.
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Don't think there's a single one who has defended shouting or losing temper.

Many who have said he was rude and disobedient and deserved to be told off.

His own mother can't grasp that he is being disobedient when he does exactly what he's been told not to do, and can't see that he's being rude when he talks back and tries to (erroneously) correct the teacher. So it's easy to see that he has been allowed to be cheeky and disobedient at home, and it probably does feel unfair to him to be pulled up on the same behaviour at school. So yeah, he's gonna cry snd say it's unfair when someone tells him off. He'll probably describe a simple telling off as being shouted and screamed at too.

This wasn't smart-arse cheeky backchat from an adolescent, this was a child of 6 confused about whether being in pain or injured were the same thing or not, and asking for clarification. A not unreasonable question from a kid that age.

Teacher was 100% out of order.

He didn't ask for clarification. He erroneously corrected the teacher.

We don’t know because we weren’t there. However, in my experience, a child of six, who knows the class are being told to be quiet so work can be completed, also knows it isn’t appropriate to pipe up with yet another question. In my experience, it is done for laughs (just like teenagers) as even six year olds like a bit of attention from their peers. It isn’t unusual or shocking or the sign of a ‘naughty’ child, but I wouldn’t be making excuses for them when they do it. They are much more aware of how to push boundaries than you expect.

Maybe I’m not with it but as a teacher I probably would have used that moment to quickly explain the difference between being sick and being injured, before moving on. He’s only six so it’s not like an older child who may be more likely to disrupt the class with such a question.

Exactly this! It’s quite clear that he was rude after being told not to disturb the teacher, I’m guessing it wasn’t the first time either. The fact his mother can’t see that his words and actions were rude is a clear sign he’s not pulled up on this at home and is probably not used to being told off. This is likely why he described it as screaming. Teachers do not scream at kids in this day and age. I despair at some of the shit parenting these days and the hostility towards teachers.

We don't know he was yelled at. The OP wasn't present during the incident. His/her DS told her about it.

Don't be naïve. Presumably, you don't have children. If you ever do, they'll run rings round you.

Address the issues with the teacher.

Not every teacher is fit to teach young children. I'd speak to the teacher to find out what happened and why such a Draconian order was given. I have no objection to asking children to sit quietly and not to disturb her but to proceed to frighten and humiliate a 6 year old in front of the class is unprofessional and cruel. I'd expect her to at least speak kindly to your child in your presence to explain her actions and to reassure him that he needs not being afraid of her or going to school.

This is sensible.

It wasn't 'Draconian'.