To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

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... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. The terrorist attacked and the police have mistakenly killed an innocent.

People on social media are now insinuating that the Mossad have something to do with orchestrating this attack. An inside job, if you will.

What the actual fuck am I reading????? You are openly and disgustingly antisemitic. Shame on you. Bat Zona.

Yes my son’s school does this and focuses largely on Christianity because it is the faith on which this country is founded. But I would like to see a bit more open discussion critiquing faiths. I went to a Catholic school all through my school years.the knowledge of Christianity is extremely helpful (although, and perhaps because if this I can pull it apart at the drop of a hat). We need to move from respecting all religions to respecting individuals but being able to openly be critical of those religions.

Absolutely nuts-we don’t ask British Chinese people to condemn the Chinese government, nor British Indians or Pakistanis to condemn anything those governments are involved in. So why is it different for Jews?

I've never seen answer or even acknowledgment that it's different for jews

Having watched the streets crawl with keffiyes chanting from the river to the sea, daubing jewish homes, shuls, and businesses with graffiti and watching a chap named Jihad murder jews in their place of worship only yesterday, yes, I do believe it.
And if we're going to start denying that misogyny is a deep rooted part of that particular religion then I'd direct you towards the Casey review as a starting point.

I am being completely genuine when I say this Sam. Please read the Koran. I have. It is not a book that promotes tolerance. I could give you quote after quote and you could quite rightly tell me I'm cherry picking. Which is why my advice is to read the entire book to understand what i am saying. This is not the place and right now I don't have the time. I genuinely would love for you to do that. You will then come to your conclusion. Anyway, either way I wish you well!

Great comment. Please know that there are loads of us out here who support you, who are appalled by yesterday's events and who utterly condemn the mealy-mouthed, cat-bum faced, moral highgrounding shite that some posters are coming out with. Sending you love and deepest sympathy.

Without a doubt antisemitism has got worse, most likely due to the Palestine/Israel conflict. Imagine being a Jew living in any major city, dealing with the relentless Palestine protests, you just wouldn't feel safe to leave your home at the weekend. It's a disgrace!

The politicians and mainstream media have all played their part in it too.

I'm not reading 800 replies but shocking that 30% voted YABU.

Yes it is high. And scary. But I am not sure it is right to assume that all the threats are targeted at Jewish people.

Do you know why the police responded quickly? Do you know there were armed police 4 minutes away? Do you know that Jewish schools, synagogues and community centres need to be guarded by private or volunteer staff 24/7? Damn right they should be protected. The fact that Jews need this kind of fucking protection in the first place is the issue here! How this doesn’t make you furious is beyond my comprehension,

No, I’m saying that mass immigration (including white immigrants btw) in a short period of time, makes it very hard for any integration to take place, and has a big affect on the longstanding community that was there. And seeing as some of the brown people in my community also moved out, and shock horror, there are brown people living in the area I moved to, please kindly fuck off with whatever it is you are trying to insinuate.

To be clear I think ALL religions are absolute bullshit - including the one I was brought up in. The major ones are ALL recruiting with the same ' our religion is THE true one, we're the ones god loves' nonsense... and extremists adhering to these beliefs are dangerous.
dangerous to other religions, to other culture, to non-believers. So no, I'm not antisemitic, thanks, nor am I an Islamophobe or anti Christian.
Just sick to death of people using fairy stories to justify oppressing women, gay people, other nationalities or religions or starting wars over it or committing genocide.

But I am not sure it is right to assume that all the threats are targeted at Jewish people.

Why would all the attacks need to target Jewish people in order for Jewish people to be scared?

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I don't think anyone can be protected 100%. Women still get sexually assaulted and raped, but they are protected by laws to an extent, do I think more can be done, yes. But I don't think they're less protected than any other religion, you've only got to look at the news articles about mosques being attacked too, to see it is a problem bigger than just one religion being attacked.
I think people should be safe to practice whichever religion they want. There will always be some extremists and none of them are acceptable in my view.
From my own experience in life I don't think most people in this country are anti semetic. I do believe there is growing intolerance in general for difference races and religions and there needs to be more done

Would you consider me anti semetic from anything I have said?
I have grown up and atheist, I grew up with an education that taught me about different religions and cultures and although interesting, I don't follow a religion myself, but am tolerant and have friends and colleagues that come from all sorts of backgrounds and don't judge them or treat them any differently because of it.
I have been to a concentration camp to learn about the history and intolerance that led to such horrors. Although I don't understand everything, I do understand that when you pit people against each other based off religious stereotypes, it doesn't end well

Really? Any Jew that doesn't condemn Israel is immediately written off as a Zionist, and we all know the chants aimed at them.

Oh, and also Bat Zona? get a grip. and don't assume gender either.

Unfortunately extremism is on the rise. Extreme Islamists are a problem here, extreme Christians are a problem in America and extremist Jews are a problem in Gaza. (Just minimum examples) Maybe it’s a problem with religion. I don’t think you can say that Jewish people are not protected worse than other groups. Maybe they feel more vulnerable because of the hate coming their way due to the genocide in Gaza. But the police were there and dealt with it they couldn’t have been quicker could they.

Don’t you dare tell me that you’re not antisemitic when you’ve included at least 3 blatant antisemitic tropes. Shame on you. Shame.

Jesus is a prophet in Islam. There are massive overlaps. Values of the family, of charity, of compassion. Values of honesty, humility. More in common than not.

Ok Ben zona, better?

I think it’s the responsibility of Jewish people to call out Israel actually it’s not something you can stay silent on it’s gone past that. Silence is edging towards complicity now.

The only Jews in Gaza are the hostages. Gaza and any future Palestinian state will be judenrein. Imagine that. People supporting the creation of a state where no Jews are allowed.

batzona, doll.

I’ve seen it all now. Are you basically saying you think the definition. Of terrorism should be changed to make fewer Muslim terrorist fall within the definition????