To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

[Longingdreamer]

... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

What did people think "globalise the intifada", what did they think that meant? When the head of Palestine Action said about turning the al-Asqa flood (the 7th Oct massacres) into a global tsunami, what the fuck did they expect?
This is what they dream of. This is the intifada being globalised.

EXPECT MORE OF YESTERDAY GOING FORWARDS PEOPLE!

'the islamophobia is WAY worse than the anti-Semitism.'

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What is this rubbish that you’ve been taught? Who is telling you this? Whoever it is block them. This is absolute rubbish.

Yes that poster was making some unpleasant comments..

It isn't a competition.
But I was horrified at the open comments made in the Panorama document about police racism. They openly said they hated Muslims.

Yes of course they do!

they attend nursery, schools, colleges, universities, the doctors surgery
they go to the vets when their pets are sick
they go to Asda, Sainsbury’s, Aldi,

They are doctors, lecturers, bus drivers, lawyers, taxi drivers, chefs, house husbands and wives

they are everywhere

like normal people I guess!

Oh I think they absolutely can be British. But 'child of immigrant parents' and 'integrates' can mean all kinds of things can't it? The spectrum of those two is massive. I don't think it applies to all automatically, which is perhaps not something you are willing admit.

Thank you. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. Will investigate this further.

Fucking hell, this is one of the most insane and depressing things I’ve ever read. Great to read that us Jews are bizarre and extraordinary creatures who are rare than hen’s teeth. Thank fuck that you don’t hate us because of Dana. It’s just a shame that not all Muslims have had the opportunity to meet her parents, things could have been so different.

What? I've literally posted lots on this thread about migrants who don't integrate.

I see what you mean now. I'm sorry, I see so many unpleasant views of all kinds these days...I interpreted too suspiciously. Thank you for clarifying.

Yes, and the German phrase 'Sieg Heil' only meant 'Hail Victory'...but the Nazi context was important, as we all know.

I love this faux confusion.

If someone is described as [country]-[country], in theory both parts should be about the same thing - either citizenship or ethnicity. They’re both just names of countries after all.

So why is it that ‘Pakistani-British’ is understood as Pakistani ethnicity and British nationality? And we’ve now got to the point where it’s considered a microaggression to even ask where someone is originally from, because it might imply they’re not ‘really British’.

All whilst being told their whole lives they never integrate, don't pay into the system, are leeching off the taxpayer, need to make more effort to reach out to other religions, are oppressed, are terrorists.....

Yes, Christians and Muslims are being murdered in Nigeria by Boko Haram and other Islamist groups. At least 110,000 Christians have been murdered by Boko Haram alone according to Wikipedia.

I should warn you, I just had to play a few rounds of pigeon chess with people who told me I was a terrible person for finding this post offensive too (and I'm not Jewish).

Also, I'm sorry you and other Jewish posters had to see it. I considered reporting it, but, I don't know, it seemed very illuminating in its way.

English is not a nationality, it’s an ethnicity. So while a black person could be British, they cannot be English.

This just came up on Guardian website - shootings were done by police, not the attacker. FFS.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2025/oct/03/manchester-synagogue-attack-victims-adrian-daulby-melvin-cravitz-attacker-jihad-al-shamie-latest-news-updates

It was definitely a strange message...to say the least.

In terms of demography, Jews ARE numerically rare : 0.5% last census.

So credibly many UK people may never have met someone Jewish.

That is never an excuse for anti Semitism.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/religion/articles/jewishidentityenglandandwales/census2021%23:~:text%3D1.,Wales%2520population%2520who%2520lived%2520there.&ved=2ahUKEwjl_oK-54eQAxU8U0EAHWSwA0MQzsoNegQIChAU&usg=AOvVaw1ELJBWLzxSPu50pM9ZFxFd

Do you not understand why many people are Islamophobic? How many innocent ordinary Europeans have been murdered in cold blood by islamists whilst going about their lives, at markets, concerts, on their way to work, of course not all Muslims are extremists, but those that are carry so much hate, not just directed at the Jewish population, but at anyone they deem to have upset or not respected them. The teacher that had to go into hiding following a hate filed mob of Muslim parents threatening his life is one of many incidents. Ask yourself how many uk citizens have been murdered here in our country supposedly in the name of Islam, and how many have been murdered by people of the Jewish faith in the name of their religion ? Do you not see why many people are ‘phobic’ ?

What are the differences you are referring to?
Googling what an integrate is, didn't come up with any definition?
I am happy to admit if I am wrong but I haven't got a clue what the argument is on this one
If a Pakistani women moves here and has a baby in this country, when would you consider the baby British? Or would that not be possible for the baby to be British at any point in your opinion?

Doesn’t exculpate the attacker in any way, but pretty shocking nonetheless.

I thought we knew that? He rammed a car at people then stabbed them, and police shot him because he appeared to be about to detonate an explosive belt? (Later found to be non viable.)

The uncomfortable truth, and I’m sorry I have to say this as I don’t want to fuel hate:
I grew up in one of those communities in the UK, where maybe 40% of my schoolmates were from the Pakistani diaspora. I too am from immigrants, from another place. After 9/11 one of my oldest friends (secular, professional job, born in the UK) made comments about how America deserved it.
There IS a deep seated attitude among many many British Pakistanis regarding the West, Israel and Jews which is different to the attitude of other UK citizens and immigrants both.
Thats an anecdote, yes. But it’s my experience. The 7/7 bombers came from Leeds and I’m not surprised by that. Another old friend tried to work with his Imam to tackle the growing radicalism among the young. Not sure how far he got with it. It’s becoming so entrenched, and social media is growing this hate and misinformation exponentially. You can see this by the confident way people re-write the history of the Middle East to fit their own prejudices.
We must deal in truth, not talk as if the world is how we would like it to be.

It’s already been declared a terrorist attack and yes they can.

Hmm? That's not how I'd see it..

I know you're American. What gives you the authority to pronounce on what English is...