To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

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... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

We'll probably never know why a Syrian called Jihad al Shamie would attack Jews.

And before that, the vast majority were perpetrated by Catholics but we don’t demonise all Catholics or Irish people in the same way, so we? Why is that?

Almost all of the attacks have been perpetrated by men - yet we don’t demonise all men, either.

So why just Muslims?

The attack in Manchester is unforgivable, and actually, I agree about the marches. By holding them on what should be an evening of mourning, it risks linking all Jews with the horrors of the genocide - which is entirely wrong.

I am not sure any of us can comment about whether it is or is not. I honestly believe we need the distance of time. History will tell,
Whatever it is called, what is happening in Gaza is appalling. I don't need to give it a name or to take a side to say that.

Yes 2 people were murdered yesterday, 2 people too many. Absolutely abhorrent. Do you know how many black and brown people have been murdered over the last year? Some of them because it was just assumed they were terrorists ? Some because of blatant racism? This is not a competition obviously, or a race to the top of who is more at risk. But it is very incorrect to suggest that Jews (or Muslims, or any other minority group) are not given this advice!

That post you quoted is wrong anyway, terrorists do do that.

No one should feel like this. It is very sad.
Some things are easier to hide than others, aren't they?

I remember The Troubles,,,that was a horrendous, and tragic. And definitely involved decades of terrorism.

I didn't blame the Jews for anything? That's an extremely anti semetic statement you've just made, shame on you

Of course they do, it is the basic modus operandi of ISIS.

I am just wondering how little baby Jihad who loved kittens ended up where he did. It's a mystery.

Yes 2 people were murdered yesterday, 2 people too many. Absolutely abhorrent. Do you know how many black and brown people have been murdered over the last year? Some of them because it was just assumed they were terrorists ?

No, how many? Do you have links?

The condemnation is everywhere this morning.

As it should be.
It is hard to miss it.

You remember the IRA but don't remember the threats?

I don't think many schools were attacked but all kinds of places in London were, many children mercilessly killed.

https://www.londonmuseum.org.uk/collections/london-stories/timeline-ira-attacks-london/

I don't think having a clearer goal makes the IRA any better : I suppose you could say it made it easier to stop them but they were at the end of the day brutal murderers of countless innocents.

The holiest day on which 2 people were killed which is abhorrent. 53 other pepe were also killed by the Israeli state on that holy day, children searching for firewood, women at a food station, people in tents. This happens every day and nowhere near enough people condemning it. This all has to stop

That is a war. I am reporting you to MN for spreading dangerous misinformation
They need to clamp down on this

I agree that a lot of what Netanyahu is doing is probably wrong but it is a war and right now it's very hard to judge tactics.

And it is NOT comparable to an unambiguous terrorist attack.

Assuming that all Jewish people support what Netanyahu is doing, is at best really thick, and at worse antisemitic. And even though I am opposed to what’s happening in Israel right now, even if someone supports Netanyahu, they still don’t deserve to die for their views.

There's a link on the first page, it includes the statistics. The threat to the UK from Islam is 'substantial'. 'Islamist terrorism remains the primary terrorist threat to the UK' etc. It also includes the horrifying statistic that 13% of MI5's list are under 18 years old, and that 48 late stage planned attacks have been disrupted.
It must be a truly terrifying time to be Jewish in this country.

The telegraph, times, independent and sky news have also called it a terror attack

Bullshit all we hear is people condemning it. Silly celebrities getting on boats to support terrorists. Never anything about the christian genocide. Hypocracy you support people that hate you. Absolute idiots.

I think the lax dealing with pro Palestine protests have allowed radical islamists to feel
emboldened. People absolutely have a right to free speech and peaceful
protest, but chanting for the death of Jews and Israel should never have been allowed, and the government and Police should have responded with the same force they have used following the Southport attack.

The war in Gaza is NOT a genocide.

Little Jihad's parents may have harboured, certain attitudes, maybe. I wonder who the 60 year old woman was who has also been arrested. t'is unusual.

It's terrifying. We need to protest for the government to stand up against violent anti Semitisn.

I’d say it was highly likely.

But did that translate into a hatred / fear of all Catholics? Or all Irish?

Nope.

er no, it wasn’t a “land grab” it was returning the Jewish people back home tk where they originated from and been exiled from by the Babylonians and subsequent empires.well before the Arab invasion of the 7th century. The area of Israel has historically been very coverted because of its easy access to the Mediterranean, where East meets West.

When Islam was invented and used as a unifying force, it was drafted in such a way to absorb enough Jewish and Christian tradition to make it palatable but distinguish it enough to keep control. This is why there is an overlap with Jerusalem as a holy site -it was marking its territory. It’s why many of Muhammad’s stories incorporate Jewish and Christian symbolism.

Constantine’s version of Christianity - built on Pauline doctrine which opened up Christianity to non-Jews did the same with local traditions across the Roman Empire

Both concepts relied heavily on the methodologies made famous initially by Alexander the Great.,

Many religions are a mechanism of war of conquest. It’s why we see the motif of Christianity being used amongst the patriotic right.

In hoc signo - that’s the origins of both Constantine’s Christianity and Islam. Like it or not the history books bear this out.

Of course, people in their day to day lives might only see the spiritual parts, but religions have inbuilt into them mechanisms which are designed to expand the territories and numbers of followers. It might be through conversion, through increasing birth rates (why do you think some religions ban contraception and abortion) or through killing non believers. It’s all there.

Religions aren’t generally peaceful they go hand in hand with power and military might. History tells us this. Why do we insist on ignoring it?