To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

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... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

Im so sorry.

The times headline is that Jews should not gather in groups and to keep their doors shut. There is NO OTHER group in the UK who have to do this. It’s shocking. And it’s shocking how many people on this board are blaming Jews for attacks Jews!

Ok, well what exactly to they want?
What did the Ariana Grande bombers want?
What did the London Bridge attackers want?
What did the 7/7 bombers want?
What did the Liverpool Women's Hospital attacker want?
What did ISIS want?

I think the key work there is extremists. Some of us remember when schools regularly had bomb threats from Catholics extremists. Extremists are not representative of the population they claim to come from.

I dismiss her because she is pro Israel, not because she is Jewish - although it’s my fault for not being specific in my post, for which I apologise. They are not unbiased and cannot be used as reliable sources for the genocide.

You are at pains to show how Islamic gulf states are funding terror, which is entirely true - but has nothing to do with ordinary Muslims - especially those in this country - anymore than Russian interference in our electoral processes is the fault of Christians. Or the work of the IRA was the fault of all Catholics. It only seems to be Muslims who are held accountable for the most perverse of their religion.

but again, this is the wrong time and place for this discussion.

Our Jewish neighbours need love and support, not this.

Anti semitism has been going on for thousands of years.

That’s a lot of words to not blame the man who just killed two people. A Muslim, Syrian man just killed two men. He has blood on his hands for these killings.

would you like to blame the Jews for the Manchester arena attack too?

Innocent people have been attacked and killed on a holy day on their way to prayer. I think that we all need to stand together as one regardless of our beliefs and opinions and think of those in Manchester. My thoughts and prayers are with them.

It really isn't in any way. Both anti-Semitism and Christophobia are flourishing in this country whilst an ongoing genocide of Christians by Islamists in Nigeria continues unabated, thousands of women and children have been murdered, yet we rarely hear about it in the mainstream media, no global condemnation and no marches for them or the Jewish victims of the October 7th genocide.

Solidarity with our Jewish community.

Because certain types of people enjoy hurting others and are always on the look out for a cause to excuse it. The purpose of the attack was to hurt, kill and terrify.

That FP article about starvation is so vile. ‘Kids are starving, but they used pictures of starving kids with other health problems’ is just abhorrent. It seeks to undermine the message by discrediting the way it was delivered, moving the conversation away from the fact that kids are dying from hunger and feeding into conspiracy bullshit. Reprehensible

Really?
Was it a ‘tiny minority’ who have managed to rape & sexually abuse 250,000 girls??
How many Muslims call out for anti semitism to stop?
How many Muslims condemn Hammas and demand the Jewish hostages be returned? Is it less than the ones who march every fucking weekend intimidating British Jews?
75% of terrorist attacks on British soil in the last 20 years carried out by Muslim men who make up between 4-7% of the population. Hardly proportionate is it,
And you are shocked??? Open your eyes.

The creation of the Israeli state is a massive part of the problem, to solve the post war problem of the displacement and heinous mistreatment of the Jews, not just by the Nazis but historically over years from many many communities the west decided to land grab from Arab people which they were not entitled to do and just outsource the problem. Instead of welcoming Jewish people in the community and finally bringing anti semetic behavior from generations to and end. All they did was create hate on all sides. But I have never seen hate and dehumanisation systematically and consistently enacted like the Israeli state has, generations of trauma and destruction, apartheid, war crimes and ethnic cleansing. Why don't the west intervene? We started it, we don't want the problem, we want it to stay far away and we have too much invested in it. So we let them fight it out, let the Israel break every international humanitarian law going, turn a blind eye and sympathize with them when people conflate Zionist and the Israel state with Jewish people as a whole. I have protested countless times in the last 20 years I have never experienced anti semetic behavior, it's not the goal of pro Palestine people

"Extremists are not representative of the population they claim to come from."

What makes you think they're not from the population they claim to come from? I find this assertion peculiar

Ideally, there should be solidarity between the minority groups, not more hostility and the political links between extremism should not be swept under the carpet.

Agree with this. I am an ordinary (not v strict) Muslim living in the most Jewish borough of London. Lots of Jewish friends, we all get along and want peace. The hatred I feel towards Islamic extremists is immense. They do not represent me. Extremists made the life of my peaceful but religious hijab-wearing cousins much harder after 9/11 and 7/7 etc; they get so much more abuse and experience so much Islamophobia now.

And I abhor attacks on religious days. Whether that’s attacks on Palestinians during Ramadan or this appalling attack on Yom Kippur.

I felt such intense emotions hearing about this attack on innocent Jewish worshippers yesterday. They could have been my friends. Hey they could have even been us attending a Bat/bar M ceremony.

I stand by all the Jewish people feeling scared right now. I am definitely not the only Muslim who feels this way. The extremists get the headlines and I truly despise them and their murderous actions. We need to stand together; we have so much in common. Jewish people should be able to feel safe. I am so sad for the community right now.

Please stop saying stupid things like this. Very recently during riots BAME groups were told not to go out unless absolutely necessary, medical staff in hospitals had to be taxi'd in (some were too afraid to even leave the house) and the NHS had to issue safety guidelines. It is very common for minority groups to be advised not to congregate for their safety by police! I really wish when posters say THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANY OTHER GROUP about any specific group, that they would think about and research what other people go through. It's horribly minimising.

Stop anti Semitically associating Jews with Israelis.

Plus the Gaza war is a war. It is NOT a genocide or terror attack. NOT comparable. Stop swallowing the Hamas narrative, awake!

the displacement and heinous mistreatment of the Jews, not just by the Nazis but historically over years from many many communities the west decided to land grab from Arab people

You know that the majority of Jewish Israelis are were or are descended from those who were expelled from neighbouring Arab countries, right?

I really wish when posters say THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANY OTHER GROUP about any specific group, that they would think about and research what other people go through. It's horribly minimising.I really wish when posters say THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANY OTHER GROUP about any specific group, that they would think about and research what other people go through. It's horribly minimising.

Jewish people have literally been murdered, yesterday, yes of course that's worse than being told to take a taxi. The only person miminising is you.

I don't remember schools have bomb threats from Catholics? What schools? Were any bombered? Children killed? I don't remember any of this.
I remember the IRA and as much as I condem and oppose their methods, a least they had a clear and understandable goal.
I don't even know what Muslim terrorists want apart from kill as many non Muslims as possible.

I don't even know what Muslim terrorists want apart from kill as many non Muslims as possible.

The destruction of Israel, and the establishment of a global Islamic caliphate, I guess. How stabbing nursery school children or beheading priests furthers that goal I remain unsure about.

Clearly you haven’t seen any footage from any of the marches calling for death to Jews.
Or maybe look at footage from Liverpool Street station YESTERDAY with the chanting/singing and flag waving.
Are you going to say that was just a spontaneous bursting into song along the lines of the Sound of Music on the day where Jewish people had been murdered simply for being Jews.
i would like to say im shocked by the blatant anti semitism on this thread but im not.
Im just sad and so so worried for the beautiful GB which welcomed the Kinder Transport and promised safe haven to Jews. How have we let it come to this?

I'm not, I used this in an attempt to show that you cannot use a whole population against the action of a few. That's what the poster was doing. I made that very clear.

This is worse, that's worse, this is worse, that's worse. I wish people would just stop.

All I can see is a world becoming more divided, more hate-filled, more frightened of anyone who is different to themselves.

This was a despicable act and I feel so sad and appalled for the Jewish community. I feel the same when there is any violent act carried out and it is becoming the norm it seems, with far-right groups happily stoking the fires of division.

The best I feel we can do to resist the tide is to uphold our beliefs in kindness, fairness, celebration of differences, and demonstrate these beliefs in the way we live our lives.

I can see your anger here. That is allowed.
Yes, in all those instances, it is a tiny minority of British Muslims.
I don't have the power to make you see otherwise, but I will continue to say I will not tar every Muslim with the same brush.
I am not pro or anti anyone.
I just like to be fair in what I comment.

Yes ‘during riots’… to quote you.

no other group IN TOTAL is called to not gather across the country. What you are talking about is in certain areas and certain times. This is a call for all Jews across the country and perhaps really globally and indefinitely.