To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

[Longingdreamer]

... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

Yes it’s definitely grown in the last couple of years. I now always keep my Jewishness to myself. Only people who have known me a long time know. I have young children and I haven’t yet told them they are Jewish. I feel like they are safer this way unfortunately. I know it’s not great parenting to not let them
know who they are but I find it an impossible situation to navigate.

Nonsense you say? Sadiq Khan has seemed quite proudly that white British are a minority. And there is a known issue with voter fraud, bloc votes and abuse of postal voting among certain communities, particularly Bangladeshi and Pakistani origin.

Census data.

Demographics of London
Major ethnic
White: 53.8% (2021) White British: 36.8% (2021)
Minor ethnic
Asian British: 20.8% (2021) Black British: 13.5% (2021) Mixed: 5.7% (2021) Other: 6.3% (2021)
Language
Spoken
British English (main language: 78.4%)

From the article linked below:
Several reports have highlighted that, within Britain, allegations of electoral fraud tend to be more common in areas with large Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities. However, the extent of this association has not yet been quantified. Using data at the local authority level, this paper shows that percentage Pakistani and Bangladeshi (logged) is a robust predictor of two measures of electoral fraud allegations: one based on designations by the Electoral Commission, and one based on police enquiries. Indeed, the association persists after controlling for other minority shares, demographic characteristics, socio-economic deprivation, and anti-immigration attitudes. I interpret this finding with reference to the growing literature on consanguinity (cousin marriage) and corruption. Rates of cousin marriage tend to be high in countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, which may have fostered norms of nepotism and in-group favoritism that persist over time. To bolster my interpretation, I use individual level survey data to show that, within Europe, migrants from countries with high rates of cousin marriage are more likely to say that family should be one's main priority in life, and are less likely to say it is wrong for a public official to request a bribe.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261379417300811

We also know that the UK government have actively ignored the threat from far right extremism, preferring to focus on scrutinizing Muslims.

@verybighouseinthecountry Can you link to that? The islamic threat is much bigger, the far right threat is growing though.

I have not said anything anti-Semitic at all. You have backed yourself into a corner, and now you want to deflect. I have a lot of shame, critical reasoning and sense, thank you very much, which is why I would never have made the statements you have done.

I won’t be reading the daily fail anymore. We don’t know if he was an Islamic terrorist or a mentally unwell man who lived alone walking down the streets in his pyjamas (as neighbours have described). He could have had mental issues. Terrorists don’t ram their car back and forth and then go stabbing people like a crazy person. Was the guy who drove through the crowd in Liverpool a terrorist? Really quick to call someone an Islamic terrorist just because they have a Muslim name. It’s like calling all Jews zionists which is not the case.

Okay say you're right and he's mentally ill. What an enormous coincidence that a man rejoicing in the name of Jihad, with a mental illness, chooses to express his psychotic break by slaughtering Jewish people at a synogogue on the holiest day of the calendar, rather than, say, running around naked announcing he's Napolean.

I have not said anything anti-Semitic at all. You have backed yourself into a corner, and now you want to deflect.

This is from the poster who said "how do we know the terrorist is an islamic one, he could be mentally ill wondering about the streets in his pyjamas" 🤔

have a lot of shame, critical reasoning and sense,

Evidently

Hugs. I took feel the isolation. Not one person has reached out to me.

I also sadly don't think that this terrorist atrocity will receive the condemnation that it deserves.

the thread is asking if people are protected, the answer is they tried to protect and replied the cry for protection within 8 minutes the perpetrator was shot dead, which protected other victims of their crime

No it’s not.and this minimising of antisemitism is disgusting especially in the light of this attack by a Muslim on the Jewish community. It’s exactly what the Muslim Trust - a government funded organisation did. One line about the terrible terrorist attack on the Jewish Community several paragraphs on how Muslims should be kept safe..Check yoursef!

Unacceptable. In a thread about protecting Jewish people, you talk about Islamophobia. Why do you feel the need to say this, especially here?

This is from the poster who said "how do we know the terrorist is an islamic one, he could be mentally ill wondering about the streets in his pyjamas"

If he is mentally ill, he's clearly had his head stuffed full of antisemitic filth in order to express it in that way. So either way this attack can be directly attributed to the culture of antisemitism that is currently running unchecked in the UK.

the islamophobia is WAY worse than the anti-Semitism.

Yeah, sure. That's why Islamists felt perfectly comfortable driving through Jewish areas of London shouting death and rape threats. Just cowering in fear, they were...

If he is mentally ill, he's clearly had his head stuffed full of antisemitic filth in order to express it in that way

quite

I agree.

“There’s good reason to frightened”, I hear you:
“ at least half of Muslims believe it is their religious duty to try to convert others to the Islamic faith. Only in Indonesia and some countries in Central Asia and Southern and Eastern Europe do a clear majority say Muslims are not obliged to proselytize”. ^from here: www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-interfaith-relations/^

If the Jewish Community were protected there would have been no need for the call in the first place!

Are you seriously saying because the police shot dead a terrorist the Community is protected? What about all the anti semitism comments all the anti semitic marches ? Jewish families fleeing and planning to flee the UK.

No it’s not brain rot - it’s the horrific nightmares I have had ever since I finally reported the sexual abuse I suffered as a child by Muslim men (I’ve only said this because of your insulting comment)
It’s seeing the terrorist attacks committed against law abiding British people simply because they hate us.
Dont say ‘Gaza’ - that wasn’t happening when children were blown apart at an Ariana Grande concert, or when 7/7 happened..
Yes, I’m scared. I’ve seen how Islam has captured many African countries who are now sending men here via the channel, claiming ‘asylum’. They are not coming here because they want to intergrate. They want to assimilate.

If there’s ‘Islamaphobia’ (which there isn’t) why isn’t there Jewaphobia? Or Christaphobia? Why is it just the group who have committed 75% of terrorist attacks in the last 20 years in the UK who feel persecuted?? Surely even you can see that’s arse first.

As a white woman I will always be extremely wary of Muslim men - and considering all of the terrorist attacks, the vast vast number of raping gangs with an approximate 250,000 victims I would be mad not to be worried for myself, my family and white girls wouldn’t I.
And frankly I don’t give a shit if you think I’m a bigot. It’s just another insult (like terf) hurled by people waving flags who think they are oh so superior.

Today I am going to remember Adrian Daulby and Melvin Cravitz without whose brave actions I fear we would be seeing many more names of murdered Jews.

And what about the woman in her 60s and man in his 30s arrested in connection with this?

You should worry more about the attacks rather than the blowback. Don’t you think this reflects poorly on you to think in this way?

How do you protect from any terror attack?

Unfortunately we have terrible terror attacks, I grew up with the threat of IRA attacks and bombs going off in Birmingham, London.

How do you protect so that the attacks don't take place?

This

The police absolutely rushed to deal with it and protect the community - the attacker was dead within 7 minutes of the call to the police. That suggests an appropriately high level of care and concern for the Jewish community.

I would think it suggests credible intelligence that attacks were likely. But it is a good thing they reacted so quickly.

It still doesn’t excuse the general problem faced, that terrorism is happening here. Plus the general sentiment.

I agree

Your message is nice but I just don’t think it works. I haven’t thought this for a long time tbh though I used to.

You cannot unilaterally believe in the values of tolerance, multiculturalism and diversity, other groups have to buy into your worldview or it will be doomed to failure.