Starmer thinks I am an enemy of the state

[Bumblebee72]

So we have it Starmer has declared at conference because I support Reform I am now an enemy of his Government.

Who would have thought it, a middle class British worker, now an enemy in the country I was born. And they say Reform is the party of Fascists. Yet we also now have the Home Secretary saying "In solving this crisis, you may not always like what I do. We will have to question some of the assumptions and legal constraints that have lasted for a generation and more". Maybe the Home Secretary too will be deemed an enemy of the state.

Am I being unreasonable to think this should be seen as a rallying cry to get this Government out at the first opportunity.

I think I might save this for an “i told you so” in 5 years time. Don’t get me wrong, I can understand and feel really sorry for your totally understandable concerns about the way our country is at the moment. But it’s because we have had been forced in to trickle down economic policies for the last 14 years which don’t work. That will only get worse under reform.

This is so clueless. People who have three kids plus without means to support them often do so because they have problems or their lives are chaotic. Removing support for a third child plus won't make those people capable of planning ahead and it won't make their lives less chaotic. It won't stop them having kids. It will just put the kids they do have further into poverty. Great planning. Then they and their poor health, mental problems and possibly even criminal behaviour from their shit childhoods can carry on costing us all money for the rest of their lives. Super-smart way to build a healthy society 👏

So, so many of us are with you OP.

Don’t let the bastards get you down.

Sure - let me google that for you,

Starmer vows Labour will never surrender Britain to ‘enemy’ Farage in impassioned party conference speech | The Independent

Telling Labour who the real enemy is has energised both Starmer and his party | The Independent

7 bombshells as Keir Starmer launches 'enemy' attack in major Labour conference speech - The Mirror

Starmer brands Reform UK an ‘enemy’ of Britain ahead of Labour conference | The Standard

Most of the left wing papers are pushing the Enemy agenda.

It's like if you've been offered coke or tango and you don't like them so you choose to drink piss instead.

They won't though, in reality. They know we can't run without foreign workers.

So what's the answer then?

I don’t think he should have to apply for citizenship full stop. He has permission to be here and has had for decades.

So are you happy with loss of workers rights, of your human rights, the nhs, and uncosted tax cuts for the rich?

I'm not a bastard by the way, just one of the many who sees through Farage's falsehoods

OPs hyperbole is of course mirrored by Reform and Farages attacks on the current Labour government and are merely the hurly burly of politics.

If the OP is personally upset by it then maybe they aren't cut out for UK politics. Or need to look at how 18th century politics were done. This is a lovefest by comparison.

In fact getting all upset over it isn't very British at all 🤔

He is having to up the ante as he's shitting himself.

He said that people who do the things listed in his speech (for example shout racist chants in the street) are enemies of the state. Do you do those things?

Well if we are all forced to drink piss perhaps the coke and tango people will be forced to improve their recipes.

These threads are obviously planted here to drum up 'vibrant' discussion, difficult to amongst all of the flashing ads, so takes some dedication.

Come one MN, this is either MNHQ or the Tabloids. It's like a cheap replica of facebook at this point.

I think it the onus is more on the party in power to show competence. Labour are demonstrating complete incompetence and now using the fear strategy of we may be useless but what if the other side is also useless.

Thanks for posting this. I don't see how any reasonable person can disagree with this.

Yeap and we the Home Secretary saying will change whatever laws are necessary to reduce immigration.

Ultimately if the Government implement the Reform policies without Reform getting voted in I think many of us would be happy. That is probably what you would describe as effective opposition. Reform are certainly choosing the tune to which Starmer is dancing.

They’ve just been so weak. All the MPs leaving the hall at their conference, when the vote was called re diversity quotas ? And saying it was because they had a meeting ? No one prepared to stay and have that discussion. They’re supposed to have ideas, and conviction in their beliefs. If they’re that easily led on this issue, what happens with the next one ? Absolutely infuriating. Feel very upset as they were my political home !

But surely you can see that regardless of what the papers, often with their own agendas, are saying in their headlines, that that is not what he said in his speech?

If you want threads without debate head over to Style and Beaty or TV addicts. Robust views is what AIBU is famous for.

It’s about the amount of damage those selling us piss will do in the meantime. It really doesn’t take much to cause a whole lot of chaos.

I’m not even sure the OP has read or listened to the speech to be honest. If she has, and she still feels that she is being called an ‘enemy of the state’ then she is admitting to the behaviour that Starmer referred to in the speech. Which is pretty shocking.

Not of much comfort when choking down piss. Might never get the taste out.

Or perhaps not...

'Ultimately if the Government implement the Reform policies.' They won't. Starmer has proven himself to be an utter liar and a dictator.