Growing trend for halal meat

[SouthernFashionista]

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

Veterinarian, not Vegetarian.
https://www.bva.co.uk/ and not https://vegsoc.org/

Yes it’s barbaric. My children’s school menu now has a halal option everyday. Ridiculous. I am vegetarian and just seeing the word halal makes me wince.

why do you care about the death of the animal in “halal” way and no the other way

I care deeply about where my meat comes from, how far it has travelled and where/ how it is killed.

I wish more people would think like myself. We don't need meat every day and we certainly don't need mass produced meat on an conveyor belt.

The reason Halal gets mentioned not kosher is nothing to do with their predominant skin colour and everything to do with Halal regularly being presented to non-Muslims, including in school dinners. You have to go to some effort to find somewhere offering kosher food to non-Jews.

We’ve had mobs surrounding schools baying for the blood of teachers for showing a cartoon of ‘the Prophet’. People are in hiding.

Similar mobs have surrounded schools to demand LGBT tolerance should not be taught.

A mother was forced to make a grovelling apology because her son, who has special needs, dropped a Koran by accident.

A man was slashed at with a knife for exercising his free speech by burning a Koran (case from this week).

In countries with an Islamic majority, they have become a theocracy with terrible human rights bar a small minority (Lebanon and Malaysia really). Why do you suppose this would be different here, if it came to that?

I think the point she’s making is it isn’t an option. The vegan options are an addition, with the meat options still available. Halal meat seems to have replaced all other meat - five guys, Nando’s etc advertise that ALL their meat is halal. So those who want non-halal meat can’t eat there.

Not where I live. No-one serves it here. No-one asks for it.

(Edited to say, I live rurally, in one of the Shires.)

Where are you?

Rural, one of the shires.

And what happened between 2009 and today? It couldn't possibly be that these almost-two-decades-old numbers have been cherry-picked to show the steepest rise, could it? Like how the climate deniers pick a slight downturn one year and ignore the wider trend?

Another Muslim bashing, Islamophobic thread?

Immigration.

I've seen some daft comments on MN, but.... The clue is actually clearly stated in your own sentence. Vegan and Vegetarian dishes are in fact "options". Regular restaurants offer maybe 2 or 3 at best, with plenty of choice for those who don't want to eat them or even given them a second thought. Same applies to gluten free options. How could any sane minded individual get exercised about that. Please tell me you don't.

This cruel practice is another step on the way towards the UK being inslamified. No one asked for it, no one wants it, its cruel for animals not to be stunned prior to death. Where are the RSPCA and animal welfare groups highlighting this cruel practice?

My objection to halal meat has to do with ritual killing which is not humane. There is nothing not humane about vegetarian and vegan food - and it tends to be an option, though there are some veggie restaurants (my choice to go or not). Indeed, I would support vegetarian food as an option in a staff restaurant over halal meat on those grounds.

And this is wh6 we should be so concerned with Labour’s current route - any criticism of Islamic practices gets labelled ‘Islamophobia’ as if we shouldn’t be afraid of Islam.

Genuine question. Is it ALL Halal meat
that that is forbidden or just the non-stunned meat?

Yes, that'll win the debate. Lets stick our fingers in our ears and sing "lalala" because a practice by an "oppressed minority" can't possibly be at fault for anything.

I think as long as its clearly advertised, as a private business, its up to them what they sell. I think the law should be updated though so clear labeling is mandatory and people can choose what they eat.
I do wonder as well if there's money to be made selling non halal fast food. Would it fall fowl of discrimination law though if they advertised 'non halal meat only'?

instant death versus prolonged bleed out??

The fact is we are a Christian country believe it or not. I mean when we go to Tunisia or another Muslim country. We respect their laws, and we do not demand to be pork on the menu or bacon sandwiches 🤷‍♀️

It's not Islamophobic to object to killing animals for meat without UK regulations on humane killing being followed.

So, to be clear, you are not opposed to pre-stunned Halal meat. It is Kosher and non-stunned Halal to which you object?

That is a common misconception. A lot (if not most) Halal meat IS pre stunned. And is unconscious at the time of slaughter.
The difference is that Halal stunning does not kill the animal it only knocks them out and in theory the animal is revivable at that point. Regular stunning often kills outright.
It is also worth pointing out that Halal meat demands the highest welfare standards both in life and death. No slaughter is nice.
Please educate yourselves before making sweeping judgements about it.
I will also point out that I am not Muslim nor am I completely sure which side of the fence I am on.

There is no suggestion that UK regulations are not being adhered to.