Growing trend for halal meat

[SouthernFashionista]

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

My BiLs livestock is halal. It's the same as regular slaughter but with a recording of prayers being played in the abattoir.🤷‍♀️

Most halal meat in the UK is pre-stunned.

Pre-stunned? What's that, a stunning before the stunning? I suppose its better than being post-stunned.

The type of person defending halal slaughter are likely to be front of the queue to attack country pursuits for being cruel. But thats ok, thats privileged white men. They're evil. All about the animal rights until its the 'oppressed minority' dishing out the cruelty.

I'm sure they are. The British Veterinary Society on the other hand...

Really? So you and most people you know go to church every week, don't engage in premarital sex and the children learn the bible and go to Sunday school etc.?

Whoever 'we' is, you are describing the behaviour of Islamists. 6.5% of the UK population is Muslim. The possibility of the UK becoming a Muslim theocracy any time soon is tiny. If it were to do so, I don't doubt that we would lose our freedoms. My view, just so you don't conclude I am an apologist for Islam, is that the values of Islam are incompatible with those of the west.

I don’t buy halal meat and I don’t eat at restaurants that serve it, although I imagine many don’t advertise it. I guess that’s Five Guys off my list, although it’s not somewhere I have been to very often.

It isn’t if they are selling Halal meat to non-muslims

So I have a religious (non-religious) disagreement to this. I don’t/want meat that has a connection to religion as the default.

I think things like this should be available to those who want it. But I do think the standard should be non-religious.

Just like education. But that’s not happening either.

Just like laws. But that’s not happening either.

If you go on holiday to a Muslim country, would you demand there be a bacon sandwich on the menu?

Totally agree. People who happily eat any meat become very suddenly concerned about animal welfare when halal comes up. As if other animals cuddled to death.

🎵And the calf that you carve with a smile
Is murder
And the turkey you festively slice
Is murder
Do you know how animals die?🎵

So there's a UK law saying you can't sell halal meat to non-Muslims? 🤔

Complaining about this when you don’t even know what halal means in relation to slaughter methods is the UK is just plain racist.

For meat to be halal, the animal must have lived a good life and have been well taken care of. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

Why should we also cater for the minority?

6.5% versus 3% 20 years ago. The projection is currently that this will be 17% by 2050. Can you not see the trend?

How is that in any way relevant to what I asked?

But no I wouldn't because I don't eat bacon. If your Muslim country in question decides it makes financial sense to put bacon on the menu it will.

I agreed with the Moslems who objected not to LGB rights but to teaching their children that they could change sex - you can't. This was the 'No Outsiders' programme which promotes gender ideology with which I entirely disagree. Good on them for protesting. I would join them.
That said, I don't agree with the other events you have listed. They are attacks on UK culture and show an unwillingness to integrate into the host society.
I deplore objections to cartoons of Mohammed - this was entirely wrong and an attack upon free speech. As for the Koran incident, the mother should have refused to apologise for an accident: that she was pressurised into this apology appalls me and I would not have apologised. The Koran is a book like any other. The recent knife incident seems to be part of the 'two tier' justice system - I doubt a Jew wielding a knife at someone who had burned the Torah would have got away with a small fine!
Totally disagree with all meat on a menu being replaced with halal - serve a vegetarian dish instead (which I would likely eat!).

So in a nutshell, you don't like Muslims?

That’s nonsense. Read about the Balkans where Muslims lived for centuries and centuries. No conquering (!) and so well integrated you couldn’t tell if a person from Bulgaria has Muslim heritage or not.

We do not expect Muslim countries to give us bacon sandwiches, and I bet if we asked we would just get a lucky of disgust. So why is this any different.
We are not a Muslim country.

(I am vegetarian)

Islam.

What about Lebanon?

There are two main problems with halal meat:
Firstly that the animals aren't stunned before slaughter. This is something that was fought long and hard for in the early 20th century. It's the most humane way of killing animals for meat.
Secondly - halal meat is not labelled as such in the shops, this imo is wrong. Consumers have the right to know as much about the production of their food as possible and make informed decisions.
Possibly a third issue - halal and kosher butchering was allowed under certain very limited circumstances, the principal one being that the cruel method of slaughter was only for animals consumed by the religious minority who require it. It was never intended that it would become a default method of slaughter, which seems to be the case.

Oh FGS, no I don't want them to go bust. 🙄

I just want another option to be offered AS WELL AS Halal meat for those that do not want to eat it. 🤷‍♀️

I see. It's like saying I don't dislike Blacks, just Blackness.