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Growing trend for halal meat

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SouthernFashionista · 29/09/2025 14:54

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

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quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:17

nomas · 02/10/2025 12:02

Subway do cater to different communities. Wherever there is a halal Subway, nearby there will be a non-halal subway.

And both halal and non-halal ones have vegetarian options.

What you're suggesting is that there be no halal options at all, right?

Which bit of 'cater to all faiths' did you miss?

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 15:18

nomas · 02/10/2025 15:13

Yes, it’s a total logic free position.

Exactly. I think this thread is just an excuse to go bash Muslims. I've never actually tried a kosher meal. I think I'll go to a kosher restaurant sometime soon and try it out.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 15:18

nomas · 02/10/2025 15:13

Yes, it’s a total logic free position.

You'd never be able to buy from the supermarket at Christmas time there's always some kind carol singers or bands, corrupting the carrots.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/10/2025 15:18

There is no reason why they cannot offer both meat options.
Madness.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 15:18

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:17

Which bit of 'cater to all faiths' did you miss?

If all the chicken was blanket halal everyone could eat it and it'd cut costs due to economies of scale.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 15:20

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/10/2025 15:18

There is no reason why they cannot offer both meat options.
Madness.

Cost wise. If all the chicken was halal it's easier to bulk order and just have one supplier. Don't need to worry about getting the halal and non-halal mixed up.

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:32

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 15:16

I think you can slaughter your animals for personal consumption - you just can't do for sale.

I think it may depend on the animal, the regs for chickens might vary from the regs for sheep, cows, pigs.

Not so easy to dispatch.

EmpressoftheMundane · 02/10/2025 15:36

KitWyn · 02/10/2025 12:43

But it is likely that a significant proportion of 'the rest of the population' is only indifferent because they don't know, and the meat/food industry likes it that way in order to save money on managing two supply chains.

It is odd, that adding a label of 'halal-stunned', 'halal non-stunned' or 'kosher always-non- stunned', is so resisted.

I'm a vegetarian and a confirmed atheist. I don't want prayers of any kind said over the food that I eat. It seems bizarre that someone's all-loving, all-knowing and all-powerful God would want prayers to be recited when a sentient innocent farm animal is being slaughtered for food. And even stranger that a loving God would want it to be awake throughout the process if it is non-stun slaughter.

People, rightly, have freedom to worship their religion, but other people should also have the right to freedom from religion.

Well quite. If everyone else is not indifferent, then you have to run two supply chains.

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:36

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 15:18

If all the chicken was blanket halal everyone could eat it and it'd cut costs due to economies of scale.

Except Sikhs, or others who had an ideological aversion. Clear labelling allowing choice would show the market forces involved.

nomas · 02/10/2025 15:38

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:36

Except Sikhs, or others who had an ideological aversion. Clear labelling allowing choice would show the market forces involved.

But Sikhs aren't allowed to eat stunned meat, so how does it help them?

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:40

nomas · 02/10/2025 15:38

But Sikhs aren't allowed to eat stunned meat, so how does it help them?

In my experience they can and do in the UK. But they won't eat halal.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 15:43

nomas · 02/10/2025 15:38

But Sikhs aren't allowed to eat stunned meat, so how does it help them?

And Jedi's won't be able to eat if a knife not a light sabre is used.

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:44

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 15:43

And Jedi's won't be able to eat if a knife not a light sabre is used.

They'll have to have the vegetarian option.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 15:46

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:36

Except Sikhs, or others who had an ideological aversion. Clear labelling allowing choice would show the market forces involved.

Most baptised Sikhs (over 50%) are vegetarian anyway. Why would others have an ideological a aversion to halal meat only?

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:54

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 15:46

Most baptised Sikhs (over 50%) are vegetarian anyway. Why would others have an ideological a aversion to halal meat only?

I gather it's the prayer aspect.

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 15:57

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:54

I gather it's the prayer aspect.

Is that same the logic in the atheism. If you don't believe in the other God, then the prayers are just soundwaves with no impact. You have to believe the sound waves will be interpreted by something for them to matter.

LoftyRobin · 02/10/2025 16:02

PraisebetoGod · 02/10/2025 11:37

That's interesting I wonder why non Muslim people are choosing halal meat?

A lot of people think it is cleaner and cooks better because it has been bled. Lamb chops on the BBQ definitely taste different when they are halal.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 16:05

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:54

I gather it's the prayer aspect.

How dare they. (Sarcasm)

LoftyRobin · 02/10/2025 16:08

OneDearWasp · 02/10/2025 14:24

Just to be clear, you seem to be suggesting that a law or laws is/ are not being applied. What laws do you think need applying that aren't?

Or are you perhaps suggesting amending or adding to existing laws?

From what I've read, some parts of the animal.are never kosher (I think hind legs were given as an example). So animals are killed in a kosher way without stunning, and they use the parts which are kosher. The rest goes onto the general meat market unlabelled. I haven't 100% fact checked all of this but I read it in a good few places.

nomas · 02/10/2025 16:12

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 15:40

In my experience they can and do in the UK. But they won't eat halal.

Ok, they may eat it, but the Sikh method of slaughter forbids stunning.

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 16:13

nomas · 02/10/2025 16:12

Ok, they may eat it, but the Sikh method of slaughter forbids stunning.

A full swift beheading right? The Sikh way?

nomas · 02/10/2025 16:15

FoodieBoobie · 02/10/2025 16:13

A full swift beheading right? The Sikh way?

Yes, Jhatka.

Kendodd · 02/10/2025 16:17

It's been suggested a few times on this thread the animals have a better life pre slaughter if halal. I googled to see if we have halal farms in the UK providing these better lives for all the halal meat animals. Turns out we do have a couple. But not anything like even close to the amount of halal meat produced. So posters saying that the animals have a better life pre slaughter, this simply isn't true, they're the same animals going to none halal slaughter.

I'm not sure animal welfare is better in Muslim countries but happy to have my mind changed by evidence that it is.

persephonia · 02/10/2025 16:24

Kendodd · 02/10/2025 16:17

It's been suggested a few times on this thread the animals have a better life pre slaughter if halal. I googled to see if we have halal farms in the UK providing these better lives for all the halal meat animals. Turns out we do have a couple. But not anything like even close to the amount of halal meat produced. So posters saying that the animals have a better life pre slaughter, this simply isn't true, they're the same animals going to none halal slaughter.

I'm not sure animal welfare is better in Muslim countries but happy to have my mind changed by evidence that it is.

I think that in reality most halal chickens for example are similar to the same industrial production processes as non halal chicken. Especially takeaways - no way are they paying above the odds for free range chicken halal or otherwise.

quantumbutterfly · 02/10/2025 16:42

Bumblebee72 · 02/10/2025 15:57

Is that same the logic in the atheism. If you don't believe in the other God, then the prayers are just soundwaves with no impact. You have to believe the sound waves will be interpreted by something for them to matter.

Edited

To be a person of faith is purely a matter of belief surely.

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