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Growing trend for halal meat

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SouthernFashionista · 29/09/2025 14:54

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

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PigletJohn · 29/09/2025 19:13

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 19:05

Because it’s not humane. Slitting an animal’s throat, whether stunned or not, is utterly grotesque. If vets decided tomorrow to euthanise animals this way, we would think they were gratuitous psychopaths. What is this any difference?

But you are specifically objecting to Jewish ritual slaughter (although you incorrectly thought it was Islamic).

pointythings · 29/09/2025 19:13

PigletJohn · 29/09/2025 19:10

What religious practice do you claim to be "drawn into?"

Well, quite. How do you know that your abattoir worker using a conventional non halal method of slaughter isn't speaking pagan invocations over your soon to be pork chop?

Seeing what happens in an abattoir as 'religious practice' is a ridiculous stretch of the concept.

wordler · 29/09/2025 19:13

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 19:02

When was the last time Christians actually carried those out en masse?

The point is that there is violence in all three of the main books of the Abrahamic religions.

Those who want to commit violence and control use religious verses to make excuses.

Those who want to discriminate against people of other races and religions also use religious verses to make their points.

Many of the recent violence against LGBT+ people, and abortion clinic and doctors are done by those claiming Christianity as their ideology.

FoodieBoobie · 29/09/2025 19:15

I'll summarise my own view. Halal meat is so the Muslim population can have some meat to eat. If there isn't a mix of halal and non halal it's probably because bulk buying from one supplier is cheaper.

You're bog standard non religious person now has some meat that was killed and had a religious prayer said over it. Still tastes decent.

As someone born Hindu and raised in a Hindu family, I'm ashamed to admit I was brought up with a bias against Muslims. I've worked to educate myself. I obviously don't like radical Muslims and disagree with some stuff in the faith but I will not start Muslim bashing and slagging off an entire people.

NatPen65 · 29/09/2025 19:15

And why do we think that Britain originally legislated AGAINST this type of slaughter? And to emphasise - Britain passed laws ensuring that this type of slaughter was NOT done in our country? But heck laws only apply to some of us, the rest can act with impunity and completely ignore our laws of course

pointythings · 29/09/2025 19:16

CatchingtheCat · 29/09/2025 19:11

You state all gods are false gods to someone who believes in a different one yet you seem to think Muslims should be allowed force their beliefs on others even though you recognise their god is a false god to someone who believes in a different one.

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It isn't about 'forcing their beliefs'. It is about a method of slaughter that is 1) not exclusive to Muslims, and 2) no better or worse in terms of animal welfare than the conventional method.

This is all about hatred towards a particular faith.

FoodieBoobie · 29/09/2025 19:17

wordler · 29/09/2025 19:13

The point is that there is violence in all three of the main books of the Abrahamic religions.

Those who want to commit violence and control use religious verses to make excuses.

Those who want to discriminate against people of other races and religions also use religious verses to make their points.

Many of the recent violence against LGBT+ people, and abortion clinic and doctors are done by those claiming Christianity as their ideology.

What violence are the Christians of America doing towards the LGBT? I thought it's just disagreement with life choices

CatchingtheCat · 29/09/2025 19:17

pointythings · 29/09/2025 19:13

Well, quite. How do you know that your abattoir worker using a conventional non halal method of slaughter isn't speaking pagan invocations over your soon to be pork chop?

Seeing what happens in an abattoir as 'religious practice' is a ridiculous stretch of the concept.

If it is not a religious practice then why are Muslims only allowed to eat Halal meat? Of course it is.

It a slaughterhouse had a practice of invoking pagan rites over animals then I would object to that too.

CopperWhite · 29/09/2025 19:18

CatchingtheCat · 29/09/2025 19:11

You state all gods are false gods to someone who believes in a different one yet you seem to think Muslims should be allowed force their beliefs on others even though you recognise their god is a false god to someone who believes in a different one.

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How are any Muslim beliefs being forced upon anyone? Halal food being available does not take anything away from anyone else.

TicklishReader · 29/09/2025 19:19

CatchingtheCat · 29/09/2025 19:17

If it is not a religious practice then why are Muslims only allowed to eat Halal meat? Of course it is.

It a slaughterhouse had a practice of invoking pagan rites over animals then I would object to that too.

Why?

pointythings · 29/09/2025 19:21

FoodieBoobie · 29/09/2025 19:17

What violence are the Christians of America doing towards the LGBT? I thought it's just disagreement with life choices

Well, it took them a looooong time to allow marriage equality.
Christian parents the world over still disavow and cast out their children for being gay (sadly persecution of the LGBT community by Christians is not just limited to the US - places like Uganda and other African nations are keen on it too).

Being gay is not a choice!

pointythings · 29/09/2025 19:22

CatchingtheCat · 29/09/2025 19:17

If it is not a religious practice then why are Muslims only allowed to eat Halal meat? Of course it is.

It a slaughterhouse had a practice of invoking pagan rites over animals then I would object to that too.

Right, so conversely if an abattoir slaughtered un-stunned animals by slitting their throats but spoke a Christian prayer over them, that would be fine? So it's not actually about animal welfare at all?

PurpleChrayn · 29/09/2025 19:23

Horrifying.

I don’t eat meat but if I did, I wouldn’t expect the country to switch over to Kosher meat.

BabyToothbrush · 29/09/2025 19:25

QuestioningQuorn · 29/09/2025 15:30

Well of course. I eat meat. Doesn’t mean I wish animals to suffer any more than necessary.

And it is annoying because there have been times recently where we have had to buy halal meat. It’s the cheaper option in supermarkets and some months have been tough. Personally I think it should be banned.

What on earth...surely it would have been cheaper and more humane to just, you know, not buy the meat at all? And have veggie meals?

youve987456 · 29/09/2025 19:25

According to the RSPCA 88% of animals killed using halal methods are stunned first, so I don't really see the issue.

FoodieBoobie · 29/09/2025 19:27

If you're not religious why does it bother you if a prayer (or what you'd call gobbledygook) during a slaughter process?

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 19:28

youve987456 · 29/09/2025 19:25

According to the RSPCA 88% of animals killed using halal methods are stunned first, so I don't really see the issue.

Are the 12% not an issue?

wordler · 29/09/2025 19:29

pointythings · 29/09/2025 19:21

Well, it took them a looooong time to allow marriage equality.
Christian parents the world over still disavow and cast out their children for being gay (sadly persecution of the LGBT community by Christians is not just limited to the US - places like Uganda and other African nations are keen on it too).

Being gay is not a choice!

The US Evangelical movement has been one of the main drivers through missionaries and money to places like Uganda which have some of the most ongoing violent acts against the LGBT community.

bluegentian · 29/09/2025 19:29

I do not eat halal meat. I have seen the quality of halal meat in halal butcher shops and do not like it. i buy all my meat from a butcher who is not halal and if a restaurant has not clarified if they are halal or not, i call and check.
This does cut down on places where i can eat but that is a choice I am happy to make.

wordler · 29/09/2025 19:30

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 19:28

Are the 12% not an issue?

Yes - that's an issue and I'd back any campaign to make that 12% stop.

But as lots of people keep pointing out the meat you are seeing in restaurants and supermarkets isn't that 12%.

CatchingtheCat · 29/09/2025 19:31

TicklishReader · 29/09/2025 19:19

Why?

Because I am not pagan.

wordler · 29/09/2025 19:32

There are extremists in all ideologies. And there are people who use Christianity as an excuse for violence and harm too.

XenoBitch · 29/09/2025 19:32

Five Guys serve bacon, so......

OneDearWasp · 29/09/2025 19:33

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 19:28

Are the 12% not an issue?

Not in relation to Halal food in restaurants, schools and hospitals.

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