Growing trend for halal meat

[SouthernFashionista]

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

But they aren't selling only halal meat - there are only 3 branches where this is the case. So this isn't happening.

There will be restaurants where all meat is halal. As a non-Muslim you can choose to go there, or not. Free market and all that.

Honestly, this is just another thread intended to whip up anti-Muslim sentiment. Pathetic.

Thats your opinion. Personally I dont want to pay more given that in many cases the only difference is that a prayer is said.

Plenty of bacon on offer wat our hotel when we were in Morocco - and in some of the bigger supermarkets!

There are a small minority of Five Guys branches that don't serve pork or alcohol.

The other 150+ do sell it.

Are you really so tight fisted with other people's money that you begrudge a few branches that don't sell it?

And Five Guys USA does not serve alcohol in any of its branches.

You’re on another thread saying you would intervene if somebody was exercising their right to freedom of expression by burning a Koran because you think they should show respect to the religion.

I see you.

But again, people should have the choice.
Imagine the outrage if Muslim children were given non halal meat.
Why is this any different??

Kosher meat comes from animals that are not stunned and nobody seems to care about that.

Both kosher and halal butchers maintain their slaughtering is more humane than the stunning practice. They say it is a quick, clean kill.

I do know that mainstream slaughterhouses are not particularly humane places, even with stunning.

Exactly

I thought the ‘you are being unreasonable’ would be higher.

It’s only an issue for people who have an issue with Muslims.

If you’re worried about halal meat for animal welfare reasons then I’ll be honest - just go vegetarian . Non halal abattoirs are no better.

So what if we aren’t? We are largely secular. If a business wants to offer options to broaden its customer base in some areas who cares?

You cannot assume that what one branch does is the same across the whole chain.

Five guys branches source from individual farms and whilst there are some constraints, they are able to use factors like their ingredient sourcing to appeal to the local population.

The one near me advertises that the potatoes for its fries come from a farm nearby.

Well if you know anything about businesses, businesses tend to cater their food to the people in that area. For example, I live in an area where there are Muslims here so the Lidl here provides halal meat, whereas the Lidl in the town next to us doesn’t and majority of the lidls across the country don’t provide halal meat. I’m sure where op is must be an area where there are Muslims present thus caters accordingly esp if it’s London its a tourist city you have people all over the world you want to cater for all. But I guarantee you not all five guys have halal meat across the country. And I wouldn’t even be surprised if it’s not even halal meat, and they just do this for marketing, as I even discussed with my local halal meat shop about their meat and they said essentially their meat all comes from the same place Tesco Asda etc get it from and the ‘halal’ certification is just for marketing.

putting out a post with no background information, no proper research aimed at a particular group is hate inciting, thus I call it Islamophobic. If a similar post was about kosher meat I would call it anti semitic too. OP was very reckless without looking into it herself before posting and this only incites hate thus I can only call it islamophobic

First - the chewiness would have been down to whoever cooked it - not the meat itself.

Secondly - have you read all the replies on here explaining that the all the halal meat you'd find in restaurants and supermarkets has been stunned before killing just like regular meat. So no more or less cruel than a regular abattoir killing.

Have you ever been to a large commercial abattoir of the type which produces 99.9% of all the meat on sale and from commercial meal providers?

The stress is to the animal is in the journey to the abattoir, the herding into the abattoir and the queuing up waiting to be slaughtered part of the abattoir. You can smell the fear (literally due to the mess made by anxious animals).

An experienced slaughterer using the throat cut (sorry don’t know the religious name) will be fast and the animal will be unconscious almost immediately, just as a human whose throat is cut efficiently across the artery falls unconscious almost immediately and dies. The animals are not hanging upside down bleeding out whilst calling out piteously for their mates.

In practice most halal animals are pre stunned anyway, not sure how this works with the religious rules.

I find calls for the banning of halal/kosher meat from meat eaters who buy meat slaughtered the regular way quite weird, when you consider a regular slaughter house.

I’m interested that your farm has a domestic abattoir - most small abattoirs on farms and in licensed butchers shut down years ago as the rules became stricter (and probably more expensive to adhere to). I didn’t think there were any left.

There is good evidence that stunning is often not done.

It's 2025, FFS, time we didn't have ritual slaughter.

You have misunderstood the regulations.

PRE-STUNNED Halal can be sold to anyone. Most is pre-stunned. (This means the animal is alive but unconscious when its throat is cut).

Non- Halal slaughter the animal is killed before being bled.

Traditional Halal and Kosher slaughter, where conscious animals have their throats cut, is the meat that should only be for consumption by (strict) adherents to their faiths.

Are people REQUIRED to eat pork and drink alcohol to be “integrated”? I think pork is disgusting and none of my family eat it. Should we be booted out the UK? What of the teetotal people in the UK? Out they go?

What are Islamophobes so batshit?

People should be given the choice. Imagine the outcry if a Muslim child being given non halal meat. Why is this any different??

Well, they would say that, wouldn't they?

There is no UK law that requires animals are stunned before slaughter.

Around 88% of animals slaughtered in the UK for Halal are stunned first.

All animals slaughtered under the Shechita (for Kosher) are non-stunned.

From the RSPCA.

It’s 3 of its stores nationwide and a further 20
have halal beef as one option. So you have plenty of choice.

Why are you talking about muslim children being “given” non-halal meat? You are’t forced to eat at Five Guys - any Five Guys.

Because 1. The UK, in common with all other European countries, is a democracy and there is no majority will for Britain to become an Islamic theocracy. 2. Muslims are and will continue to be a minority. 3. The Christian faith is embedded in the governance systems of England and Scotland through the Church of England and the Church of Scotland. 4. There is inter-faith dialogue in the UK. 5. Both the Catholic and protestant/Anglican churches are drawing in Gen Z so Christianity is on the rise. 6. Britain's modern history provides no precedent for the cataclysmic shifts seen in other European countries - Third Reich, communism, French revolution, moving from monarchy to Republic. 7. Serbia among other countries shows that Muslims and Christians can live peaceably alongside one another. 8. We are an island nation ie clear borders so islamification by encroachment by external forces is unlikely.

Imagine the outcry of Muslim children being given non halal meat. We should have a choice.

Tight fisted? I don't understand the point you are trying to make?

As for Five Guys USA - I am talking about England. American culture is different to English culture. We are not the same. Does that have to be said?

Does it sound like integration to you?

Or more division?