Reform voters may not be racist but they are at least dangerously naive

[ChocolateMagnum]

AIBU to accept that some Reform voters may not actually be racist, but to be pretty certain that, if they're not, they are at the very least dangerously naive?

I thought we all got taught at school about how fascism took over in 1939s Germany? And there's so much out there at the moment showing why we are at a dangerous turning point in history again.

Why is it that the so-called non-racist Reform voters not see that they are aligning themselves with a covertly racist and fascist-leaning party and that their support risks tipping the balance towards a fascist dictatorship in the UK?

It is an absolute waste of time.

Except for the fact that some lurkers may be reading this and see for themselves how stupid and lacking in humanity some of these people are.

Not all opinions are equal, and no, we don't have to respect the views of people who think that the Supreme Court was only able to rule on the meaning of biological sex thanks to Brexit, or who think it's perfectly OK to deport someone who has been a legal and law abiding resident of the UK for decades the moment they no longer meet some arbitrary criteria of usefulness.

But was she wrong?

No one is going to answer this.

And I have spent all day engaging with reform voters precisely to see if it's worth it. It's not.

They make up one new thing constantly after another. It's like being in a nursery.

Why not?

Yes so “their rise started under the Tories” is demonstrably true

And now the collapse in labour support is also going to Reform. They are to be unstoppable.

OK.

Telling isn't it?

I have waited all day to be asked.

And now I've said. And not one of them can respond.

Well I'm 12 years PQE and some of the people I trained with are partners now, but my answer would have been the same on day one of law school and it would also be the same if I were a KC or indeed a Supreme Court judge because it's that basic.

That’s uncalled for. You keep impatiently asking the same question and after I cooked dinner I answered.

You ignored my question and now you’re getting nasty. I won’t be engaging further with you.

What I want to know is why they are bringing to light very few isolated incidents of swan eating now? Every article about swans supposedly being eaten or stolen over the last week has dated back at least 10 years. Why aren’t people asking themselves why Farage has suddenly decided to highlight these very rare cases now?

Pretty obvious there is an agenda. It’s almost a carbon copy of Trump. ‘’They’re eating the dogs!’’. Nigel is a puppet with not an original thought in his narrow mind. The fact people can’t see it’s all connected is beyond my comprehension.

Couldn't agree more. Will be interesting to see how a 50/50 AIBU poll split even on left leaning mumsnet translates in the wider population. People have had enough of illegal and low skilled immigration. Multiculturalism is a failed experiment.

This is my experience. Impervious to data, confuse their feelings with facts and quick to reach for racism.

Like playing chess with a pigeon.

So are you OK with the mothers of minor British children being deported then?

Looking forward to it?

Seeing as we are in the kindergarten.

The correlation with Labour’s declining popularity is demonstrably true.
14% over xx versus 20% over 15 months.

Be serious, please.

Why don't you?

Please tell me why I'm not British.

I can’t help but see the irony in the poll above 49/51.

Even if you want to change the rules going forward, changing them retrospectively is downright evil.

What does multiculturalism have to do with illegal immigration?
What is multi-culturalism and how has it failed?

What?

You told the PP that nobody would answer them - I asked why not? I cannot answer for you.

So, I ask you again - why won’t people answer the PP?

And there was me thinking you could converse on a normal level without resorting to ridiculous name calling. 🙄

My bad.

Because if you vote Reform you're voting for her to be kicked out of the UK. She doesn't meet Nigel's criteria.

That's not name calling. What other word is she supposed to use to get the point across?

Just because you don't like being called a racist doesn't mean you aren't one.

You said:

”the rise of Reform is in direct correlation to Labour and its policies”.

Given the “rise of Reform” commenced BEFORE Labour took office then no, what you said was not demonstrably true. I am assuming you don’t know what “rise” means.

Their rise has continued under Labour but started under the Tories.