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Reform voters may not be racist but they are at least dangerously naive

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ChocolateMagnum · 29/09/2025 08:00

AIBU to accept that some Reform voters may not actually be racist, but to be pretty certain that, if they're not, they are at the very least dangerously naive?

I thought we all got taught at school about how fascism took over in 1939s Germany? And there's so much out there at the moment showing why we are at a dangerous turning point in history again.

Why is it that the so-called non-racist Reform voters not see that they are aligning themselves with a covertly racist and fascist-leaning party and that their support risks tipping the balance towards a fascist dictatorship in the UK?

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JHound · 29/09/2025 20:50

brokenpiggybank · 29/09/2025 20:46

It depends what you mean by "not worked" ?

What improvements do you think Brexit has delivered.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:50

Bumblebee72 · 29/09/2025 20:48

Without Brexit the Supreme Court wouldn't have been the final arbiter and it would have gone to the European court. At best we would still be waiting for a decision, at worst it the ruling would have been overturned. Have you already forgotten how everything used to be applied to Europe. At the same time that our court clearly defined a women, the European courts made it mandatory to allow people to self id on docs.

Another thing you are completely wrong about.

The European Court of Justice only has the jurisdiction to decide on matters of European Law. The Equality Act is completely outside its sphere of competence.

There never has been any legal mechanism by which a Supreme Court judgment can be appealed anywhere, let alone to the European Court of Justice.

It's OK not to know this stuff, but spreading such misinformation all over the internet is another thing entirely.

GabrielsOboe · 29/09/2025 20:51

Kateluvscats1 · 29/09/2025 20:45

You've summed up my entire feelings on this subject, I echo your views. Thank you.

Yes, I believe this is accurate, too.

JHound · 29/09/2025 20:53

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 20:27

Benefits.

So poor moral code and laziness.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:53

JHound · 29/09/2025 20:53

So poor moral code and laziness.

Exactly the qualities the NHS is looking for in its employees, right?

brokenpiggybank · 29/09/2025 20:54

@MissScarletInTheBallroom He (Farage) and his friends got even richer from Brexit, and that was the point.

Now that's surprising seeing as they all lost their jobs as MEPs to the tune of 8,000 euros a month plus travel & subsistence expenses.

JHound · 29/09/2025 20:55

BundleBoogie · 29/09/2025 20:30

He invented this status for illegal immigrants to clear a backlog.

Through which routes can people be ‘legal immigrants’ and get ILR?

What are you on about? You think ILR is for illegal immigrants?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/09/2025 20:55

Goldenbear · 29/09/2025 18:35

No, let's play a different game, you tell me why you believe this?

You think it’s a funny game do you ?

brokenpiggybank · 29/09/2025 20:56

JHound · 29/09/2025 20:50

What improvements do you think Brexit has delivered.

You can read it for yourself here : https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/620a791d8fa8f54915f4369e/benefits-of-brexit.pdf

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:57

brokenpiggybank · 29/09/2025 20:54

@MissScarletInTheBallroom He (Farage) and his friends got even richer from Brexit, and that was the point.

Now that's surprising seeing as they all lost their jobs as MEPs to the tune of 8,000 euros a month plus travel & subsistence expenses.

And they made far more than that from betting against the pound. Well, the top dogs like Farage did anyway. I'm sure some of his foot soldiers were just idiots.

Toastandbutterand · 29/09/2025 20:57

Toastandbutterand · 29/09/2025 20:38

Loads.

I'm adopted at 6 months.

Ilr.

Tell me why I should leave this country and be made a criminal.

Anyone?

I've been waiting all day for this.

Why am I illegal?

Bumblebee72 · 29/09/2025 20:58

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:50

Another thing you are completely wrong about.

The European Court of Justice only has the jurisdiction to decide on matters of European Law. The Equality Act is completely outside its sphere of competence.

There never has been any legal mechanism by which a Supreme Court judgment can be appealed anywhere, let alone to the European Court of Justice.

It's OK not to know this stuff, but spreading such misinformation all over the internet is another thing entirely.

Edited

You can't even recognise a benefit of brexit when it is starring you in the face. You one such a one sided view on the world. Anyway Reform are going to come in with a massive majority if Labour continue to fuck up as they are so you'd better get used to idea. I note that Labour have even start to us Reforms ideas in their conference output today - it was almost like the Home Secretary is looking to defect.

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 20:58

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:53

Exactly the qualities the NHS is looking for in its employees, right?

You’d be amazed at the work ethic people can manage when work is a necessity.

brokenpiggybank · 29/09/2025 20:58

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:57

And they made far more than that from betting against the pound. Well, the top dogs like Farage did anyway. I'm sure some of his foot soldiers were just idiots.

Edited

Evidence, please because it didn't happen -

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/from-the-archive-nigel-farage-denies-shorting-the-pound-351270/

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:58

JHound · 29/09/2025 20:55

What are you on about? You think ILR is for illegal immigrants?

Edited

S/he also thinks Supreme Court judgments used to be appealed to the European Court of Justice so I think it's safe to ignore anything else she might have to say.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:59

brokenpiggybank · 29/09/2025 20:58

Edited

Yeah, just wait there a sec while I call Nige and ask him to send over his bank statements.

Bumblebee72 · 29/09/2025 21:00

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:58

S/he also thinks Supreme Court judgments used to be appealed to the European Court of Justice so I think it's safe to ignore anything else she might have to say.

Well they did. Are you too young to remember? How cute.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 21:00

Uggbootsforever · 29/09/2025 20:58

You’d be amazed at the work ethic people can manage when work is a necessity.

Like I said, if you want to be treated by people who have no interest in nursing and have been plucked out of the dole queue, you go right ahead.

JHound · 29/09/2025 21:01

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 20:45

Yes, they are all avoiding answering that question.

Apart from one person who was at least honest enough to say that if the person is no longer a net contributor then they should be kicked out, but didn't confirm whether that should also apply to people who have become ill or disabled, the spouses and parents of British citizens, or retired people.

Apart from one person who was at least honest enough to say that if the person is no longer a net contributor then they should be kicked out, but didn't confirm whether that should also apply to people who have become ill or disabled, the spouses and parents of British citizens, or retired people

Jesus H Christ humanity out the window. So any immigrant woman must never take maternity leave nor be a housewife.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 21:01

Bumblebee72 · 29/09/2025 21:00

Well they did. Are you too young to remember? How cute.

No, they didn't, and I'm a lawyer so I would know.

You are talking out of your bum hole.

HTH.

Toastandbutterand · 29/09/2025 21:02

Toastandbutterand · 29/09/2025 20:57

Anyone?

I've been waiting all day for this.

Why am I illegal?

Are you all googling ways to be racist politely?

why should I be made illegal when I was adopted at 6 months old under a thatcher government and given idl?

And I bet I'm not the only one.

Am I friendly fire?

I have never experienced direct racism in this country until a month ago. 4 logged police incidents now.

Please tell me what I did?

I am fucking livid with reform.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 21:03

JHound · 29/09/2025 21:01

Apart from one person who was at least honest enough to say that if the person is no longer a net contributor then they should be kicked out, but didn't confirm whether that should also apply to people who have become ill or disabled, the spouses and parents of British citizens, or retired people

Jesus H Christ humanity out the window. So any immigrant woman must never take maternity leave nor be a housewife.

And never get sick, or disabled, and if she's not still a "net contributor" after she's retired, she must then go back to a country she might not have lived in for 40 years.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 29/09/2025 21:03

Toastandbutterand · 29/09/2025 18:40

Some bloke has just dumped a kitten in a basket at my front door and ran off so I'm dealing with that now, sorry. Sorry if my last post was nonsense! I think I quoted the wrong post and shouted.

Mad, completely mad, who does that?!

Oh wow is the kitten able to feed itself or does it need bottle feeding.

sunshinestar1986 · 29/09/2025 21:03

snughugs · 29/09/2025 08:44

I think a lot of people don’t love Reform, but they have the common sense to realise we can’t be importing the third world and paying for them to be housed and on benefits. That’s the reality, we have either been importing cheap Eastern European labour, who did work but the vast majority were paid top off of tax credits or universal credit or their rent, they were not net contributors once their top benefits were added. Now we are importing from poor from backward countries. Don’t be so complacent to think this won’t seriously cause damage to our country. The poor will be affected the most. A huge amount of Muslims have been imported you won’t be so virtual signalling when women’s rights get eroded in the next 30 years and we become like Iran. What do you think will happen in 20/30 years if we continue like this? Don’t give me they’ll be working my friends work in benefits the women don’t work, have lots of kids and the men do uber for just 16 hours a week they can maximise their benefits. Please tell me where your naivety thinks this will end if nothing is done?

What utter nonsense
And FYI the minimum hours for couples is at least 24, possibly more now.
How exactly can the UK become like Iran in 30 years, like how silly do you sound?

Bumblebee72 · 29/09/2025 21:04

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 21:01

No, they didn't, and I'm a lawyer so I would know.

You are talking out of your bum hole.

HTH.

There is no way you are a lawyer. You can't just write that to justify non-sense.

You would be able to write more credible arguments if you were.

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