Reform voters may not be racist but they are at least dangerously naive

[ChocolateMagnum]

AIBU to accept that some Reform voters may not actually be racist, but to be pretty certain that, if they're not, they are at the very least dangerously naive?

I thought we all got taught at school about how fascism took over in 1939s Germany? And there's so much out there at the moment showing why we are at a dangerous turning point in history again.

Why is it that the so-called non-racist Reform voters not see that they are aligning themselves with a covertly racist and fascist-leaning party and that their support risks tipping the balance towards a fascist dictatorship in the UK?

If after an additional 11 million immigrants since the Millennium, coupled with the children they have had here since, we still do not have enough immigrants to fill vital jobs, when will we?

If they've already secured their status though, it's no longer a 'fresh start'! It's a settled life here and most of us will have ups and downs in our working lives. Should their residence here be considered a 'fresh start' until they die or leave? Do you realise what that means?

But not in jobs they're not qualified or suitable for.

Mind you, if Farage brings in his "plans" for the NHS all the NEETs can train as undertakers and grave diggers.

I'm not sure why you said childcare is only an excuse to not work if you're children are under 5 then, given you do realise that it's required older than that. I don't know about your area, but after-school clubs are not affordable where I am at least not to those who would be earning minimum wage. It'd literally be more spent on the breakfast / after-school club than the wages earnt for that hour.
I didn't say anywhere migrants are more qualified- where did I say that? What we do have though is people migrating over that already have the relevant experience and qualifications for these roles, on fact many are over qualified to be carers but need to get the equivalent nursing or medical qualification here so work as carers first. The idea that we could shut off recruiting people who already have the necessary from abroad and upskill a bunch of people who don't want to do the job here is silly thinking.

Young people will be forced to seriously consider which jobs are well paid, in demand and relevant in a way they are not now.

They don't care what that means

Good question. What do people think, how many more achieve this?

I think the kind of people capable of this level of forward planning probably already have jobs tbh.

They aren't remotely compatible! Have thepeople that don't see this as an issue never visited a Muslim country? If I wanted to live in a backwards society I would move to one

Sad but true.

Well actually it isn't nearly half it is 36.4% that go on to higher education that means that a majority do not.

Because you say there is no prospect of that happening.

You do understand that millions of the workforce have also resigned, became unfit to work, or retired in that same amount of time, right? 🫠

Voting practices sometimes utilised by Muslim communities give them a disproportionate voice and power. When you combine that with low turnout and a variety of parties to split the British vote it makes a huge difference. Some areas are now putting forward ‘independent’ candidates representing Muslim interests.

See the various dishonest and anti democratic means used by Lutfur Rahman to become Tower Hamlets mayor. (BBC link below)

There has been a study in the link between electoral fraud and the communities commonly found involved.

Abstract
Several reports have highlighted that, within Britain, allegations of electoral fraud tend to be more common in areas with large Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities. However, the extent of this association has not yet been quantified. Using data at the local authority level, this paper shows that percentage Pakistani and Bangladeshi (logged) is a robust predictor of two measures of electoral fraud allegations: one based on designations by the Electoral Commission, and one based on police enquiries. Indeed, the association persists after controlling for other minority shares, demographic characteristics, socio-economic deprivation, and anti-immigration attitudes. I interpret this finding with reference to the growing literature on consanguinity (cousin marriage) and corruption. Rates of cousin marriage tend to be high in countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, which may have fostered norms of nepotism and in-group favoritism that persist over time. To bolster my interpretation, I use individual level survey data to show that, within Europe, migrants from countries with high rates of cousin marriage are more likely to say that family should be one's main priority in life, and are less likely to say it is wrong for a public official to request a bribe.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261379417300811

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32428648?app-referrer=deep-link

So once they've considered this, how does Reform intend to improve access to the training and qualifications they will need?

Asian population in Uk 8%
Asian universal credit claimants 11%

White population of uk 80%
White population on universal credit 76%

so you’re wrong. Stop slagging off white working class Brits,

Reform wants to retrospectively remove peoples rights.

I think it's very important to reiterate this again and again

Reform have said they will remove people's rights who are already established. People who already live here, have families here, have made the UK their home. Law abiding assisted people. Reform have said they will change the law to make these people illegal.

If you vote reform you are voting to allow these people to become illegal. You are voting to let these be deported.

If you are concerned about illegal immigration then by all means campaign about that. But reform what to change what illegal immigration means.

If you vote reform you are voting for a racist policy

Source?

Where did you get these statistics? They are not what I have seen.

You're right. But they don't care.

That's why they move here.

So in essence we keep the Ponzi scheme going and allow our population to reach what? 150 million? 200 million?

Is it? Has there been a survey clarifying they left for those reasons, and not economic ones?

Have you?

That didn't really make sense, but I hope you understand. You haven't got a survey either.

Yet everyone is saying they're here for nefarious reasons. Other than the asylum that it's fairly obvious they seek seeing as you all think their government is so backwards.