To want a coffee shop with a no children policy

[Amiterriblex3]

In a coffee shop and have to listen to a bunch of 2 year old screaming, absolutely screaming at the top of his lungs. Their mothers might be immune to such noise but I am not. I would be embarrassed if my child screamed like that

unless you start work really late in the day, a cafe isn’t likely to be packed with kids anyway!

Haha yes, so true. That’s me with my coffee alone in my kitchen then 😁

I'd love a child free coffee shop, with signal blockers and no WiFi. I'm really tired of people not giving a shit for how their behaviour (or that of their children) impacts on everyone around them.

I don't dislike children. I dislike parents who subscribe to the ethos of kids will be kids whilst allowing their children to bother people.

I went to a coffee shop and there was an adult speaking loudly on their phone. I want a coffee shop that has a no adults policy, with me being the only exception.

Maybe a coffee shop that has little private booths... like the ones you can get in some karaoke places

I don't think a cafe is the answer; I think the answer is better parenting. Some parents really do let their kids scream their heads off and do nothing. The kids sound as if they're getting hung, drawn, and quartered, real jet-engine decibel stuff, and the parents......do absolutely nothing. And it goes on, and on, and on. No attempt to distract the child, no saying "Shh" - nothing. As for taking them home to teach the child that this behaviour is unacceptable, don't make me laugh.

I truly don't understand it. The child is literally screaming so loud they sound like they're going to tear their vocal cords, and the parent is utterly oblivious.

Any child age 18 months and up knows what "shh" means.

yawns loudly

Yawns in all the boards that are nothing to do with children at all.

Well I tried asking my boss today if we could experiment with a quiet hour and got shot down, so it's not only posters here who don't think it would work 🙄
And no, I'm not anti child, we have some delightful young customers, but we also have the ones where you have to grit your teeth until they leave, and it's nwver the kids fault, it's the parents response or lack of that is the issue!

😂 oh dear, perhaps try a milky drink and cut down on using your phone at bedtime, should help you get more sleep 😴

I got “yawned” at for saying it was odd to post on MN!
at the end of the day, most cafes are not going to turn away paying customers to suit what is probably the minority!
My daughters have autism, one with LD and is non verbal so we don’t get out much as we worry (far too much) about the attitude of people like the OP being judgmental.
Thats not to say every badly behaved child has SEN but many do, and it’s this kind of thing that isolates people like me even more than we are now.

Saying that my youngest is almost 20 so we’d still be able to visit the no kids cafe, I’m sure OP and others like her would find another reason to ban us!
It would be quite funny to sit at the next table, while my daughter goes thru her “shouty” behaviours and regurgitating noises!

Nice to know that posters are perfectly fine with people with SEN being excluded if they can’t cope with loud noises. Nobody seems to care about our lives being made smaller.

Still, as long as the loud people get their own way…

Yeah I’d like to know this, is it just kids noise she doesn’t like.
so she wouldn’t mind me sitting at the next table with my daughter, perhaps playing YouTube loudly on her Tablet, making the shouty obsessive noises she makes, plus the throat clearing and regurgitating noises?
I can take also have loud conversations on my phone, or perhaps listen to some music, but don’t worry, no kids noise coming from my table!!!

My local cat cafe didn't ban anyone, not did it have security on the door. They just respectfully asked people to be quiet for the cats and said they'd be asked to leave if not. Funny thing is, nobody complained because we'll happily show that consideration to our four legged friends, but as this thread proves, we aren't willing to do the same for our fellow humans, including those children and adults who who have sensory issues with noise.
Nobody wants to freak out a cat. Why aren't people equally as concerned about upsetting adults and children with sensory issues around sound, or those with hearing difficulties, etc?

@Kelly1969 so sorry, that post wasn't meant for you. Incorrect tagging.

Nobody wants to freak out a cat. Why aren't people equally as concerned about upsetting adults and children with sensory issues around sound, or those with hearing difficulties, etc?

@ObelixtheGaul because as this thread shows, it is impossible to cater to all of the people all of the time. A bit of give and take is required by all.

I usually get my coffee in a takeaway cup and then if the other patrons are being too loud for me and I don't have my earphones, I will leave as I recognise I can't control other people's behaviour in a public space, even if that behaviour seems selfish to me.

I can see that must be hard. But are you really saying noise should be fine in every single public place? Would the presence of a few places where people could go for guaranteed quiet make things significantly harder? Let’s face it, such places would still be in the minority, like the quiet carriage on a train - is it really that intolerant for OP to want a few places where a quiet environment is encouraged, alongside the majority of places where noise is OK?

Quiet places already exist - but by custom rather than rule as who is going to enforce it? Whatever people say about libraries, the adult section of ours is still pretty much silent. Some coffee shops are nice and quiet.

For me dogs are more annoying, as they jump and sniff around you! At least toddlers are always centimetres from their parents!

A bit off topic but a similar question of what is in the public interest - a friend of mine runs yoga classes for kids. She has some kids that go - I think just a couple, that she says yell constantly to relieve their anxiety. But in the process, the rest of the group gets chaotic and it wrecks the calming idea behind the class. So I think it really depends what the behaviour actually is, and whether it is going to be negative for others. She didn't want to lose all her other clients, so I think in the end she said she couldn't accomodate the special needs, and would consider perhaps a separate class for them. Quite stressful.

I had a toddler come up and try to grab my cake in a cafe. Mum didn't even notice they had wondered off.

I had a 3-yr old (?) sidle up and take a piece of cucumber off my salad plate (it was about eye-height and he did it purposefully). I fixed him with my granny-instant-obeyance stare and firmly said 'Gooo away!' he scuttled off back to his oblivious mum. My companion was dead impressed.

I’m kind of surprised at how loud everyone maintains their local cafes are.

We are in young family commutersville and I can name half a dozen cafes in 10-15 minutes drive that are quiet enough to work. I can also name half a dozen cafes that aren’t. Three of the not-quiet cafes are also the best coffee for miles, but that’s probably also why they’re busy.

One of the not-quiet cafes bans laptops and tablets (and obviously no WiFi) which I think is brilliant, they’re still the busiest cafe in the town.

Our library is tiny and open plan. They have multiple sensory and singing classes. It's never quiet.