To want a coffee shop with a no children policy

[Amiterriblex3]

In a coffee shop and have to listen to a bunch of 2 year old screaming, absolutely screaming at the top of his lungs. Their mothers might be immune to such noise but I am not. I would be embarrassed if my child screamed like that

Jeez a lot of people are so intolerant of anyone that isn’t exactly the same as themselves. Shall we do away with disabled people too? Some can be a bit noisy and annoying asking for ramps and special toilets. Or maybe ban people over 75 because they can be a little bit slow moving around and getting to their tables…children are allowed to be in public, they can also make noise and learn how to be socialised. Maybe just do away with intolerant selfish folk, bring on the toddlers I say!

I realised it had all gone too far when we went to a Costa on a Sunday morning to discover 2 separate kids birthday parties. Complete with bloody cakes! What’s wrong with McDonalds?

we now frequent a local independent which bizarrely I’ve never seen toddlers in.

I'd love this. I really dislike badly behaved children, and dislike even more parents that just let them run riot while you're just trying to have a quiet cup of coffee.

I think most pubs that sell food (nearly all of them these days), also sell coffee. Perhaps that's where OP should go in the morning. Apart from school holidays, they don't get noisy until later on in the afternoon when schools are closed for the day.

I'm another one who has started more and more using hotels for a coffee. I travel a lot for work, often need a place to get a refreshment or light meal, and to work for half an hour or so answering emails. Nice hotels are surprisingly good value and usually really quiet...

I always thought you were not allowed to use hotel cafes etc unless you were staying there lol😬

I’m not sure why lots of posters think it’s perfectly normal for toddlers to scream in public. I’m sure mine were stopped from doing pretty early on in life, as I find the noise completely unacceptable. They’d get a warning, perhaps do it once more for a reaction and be dragged out if they persisted. There was a small (perfectly happy/well) child screaming the place down at the swimming centre today and there’s just no need for it - the noise just goes straight through me. Parent just carried on playing with their phone (at full volume 😬) and ignored it.

It sounds lovely OP- but please don't advertise it to nail bar mum with her iPad loving girls....

A cafe near me is tech free - no phones or laptops to be used on the premises. And I have been to a couple places that didn’t allow kids but they were restaurants. But as most cafes near me has a strong mum plus kids customer base I dint think they’ll be turning them away any time soon. But screaming kids are inexcusable- and no toddlers don’t all scream. Most know or can be reminded to use their inside voice

Lol
parents are probably their best customers…

Insightful.

I don't blame the child. You would think that the parent would be courteous enough to take the child out of the situation until they calmed down.Some people are in their own little self centered world with no concern for how those around them feel. I'll bet you weren't the only one who was disturbed by the noise.

I think most of us have no problem with well behaved children. However, far too many children are allowed to be noisy and run around as if they were in a playground. I have problems with my ears and was in a coffee shop with a friend when a small child was screaming and allowed to continue. I had a perforated eardrum and the noise was really hurting me physically. Children should be removed when they get to this point. We are paying customers too, and I think we deserve the chance to enjoy a quiet cup of coffee.

As the parent of three young children I would absolutely be down with this! Dad takes the kids to the park and I go to the coffee shop with a book and enjoy my coffee hot and in silence 😂

My local coffee shop has a “No under 16” rule. It is very popular. I also found out that the WiFi is set to give one hour a day access to an individual device to prevent campers.

I would like this to be an option. I like kids, I have kids (now young adults) and I even work with kids. But it would be nice to have the option to go for a coffee without screaming tots and performance parenting at every turn.

I would also love a no under 16s ice skating session at Christmas.

Until and unless you open your own coffee shop you don't really get to set the rules around children, dogs or anything to do with their clientele. And you can huff and puff about how they're losing your custom but the fact is that your custom isn't as important to them as the custom of people with kids, or people with dogs.

I'm not a fan of hearing screaming toddlers in cafes either, who is? It's not a problem I actually have in my life though - if a cafe is full of toddlers, or if I know it's often frequented by them, I simply don't go in. There are plenty of hipster-style cafes around me that I've never seen a buggy in that I can use instead.

Mum of 3 here .
I don’t have issues with children making some noise , chatting away , playing, a delighted squeal .
I do have issues with screaming though if parent or carer isn’t trying to stop the screaming , calm the child down , interact with the child .
And just to add , one of my children is learning disabled with autism so I’ve always needed to keep an eye on noise levels and behaviour

The irony is you are being intolerant here. There are disabled people who have noise sensitivities. And what would be wrong with having several different cafes that serve different customer needs? Quiet ones, noisy one, ones catered to parents, ones catered to students, ones catered to pensioners? If there is a market, I say why not. Surely that is tolerance?

I've never understood why hospitality places want to be family friendly
The kids food and drink is cheaper, so less profit. They are more likely to spill things and leave sticky finger prints. They are also more likely to have a screaming fit, or run off. Surely selling expensive cocktails to grownups is far more profitable for less effort?

I don't have children. As far as I'm concerned children should be welcome in cafés. Often they actually make the atmosphere more interesting, I like seeing them. Yes, sometimes there's noise, but that's life. And anyway what's the alternative? Should parents just stay at home?

Nobody has suggested that children be banned from all coffee shops, so why would parents have to stay at home?

That token comeback is over used now, parents say it every time someone dares to criticise screaming kids on aeroplanes! I don't push my face closely into someone else's face to listen chewing or look for an open mouth. Inventing fake problems doesn't alter the issue.

I'm pretty sure it would be, plenty of people stay child free now, I went to a cat cafe at weekend that has an age restriction, lovely place.

Why can't some of you accept that many people are child free now and it's not a problem to see child free spaces being a thing! There's nothing wrong in it! Don't be jealous and spiteful about it!