Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

[Onegingerhead]

I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

I hope not! I think anyone who has been here more than 10 years, even if they're 'illegal' (like, didn't get their paperwork right or something,) should just be given British citizenship by default.

It's unspeakably cruel to make people leave when they have forged a life here, have family here, have a job here, and have had children born here. I can't imagine why anyone would want to vote for anyone who would do that. (Force people to leave the UK, when they have a life, a job, a home, a family, and friends here.)

Hope you will be OK @Onegingerhead I hope you all will.

DH and I are British and are considering leaving, if somewhere will take us!

Im sorry you are having think about this @Onegingerhead.

Reform and all the flags just give carte blanche to all the rampant racists, mostly male (who I wish we could deport).

I was gutted by the European Referendum result and things have become steadily worse ever since. What a disaster Brexit has been.

Except he hasn't said anything of the sort. Evidence please?

You have just got to look at what is going on in the USA right now and their Make America White Great Again campaign. The same will happen here. Blows my mind when I see non white or foreign born people marching on the streets or saying they will vote Reform, as I have no doubt that once they have dealt with the "illegals" they will be coming for them next. Or maybe at the same time, just as we are seeing ICE doing in America. How "Great" Britain will be when we have groups of masked men without ID rounding people up as they please.

Social care would also collapse!

Also, my husband is foreign born from an English speaking white country, so nobody has ever given him any shit for being here, and he got his passport a few years back as he could see this shit coming.

I am a British citizen, but came here from Malaysia many years ago. Ethnically I am Indian. Life is getting harder. I have noted previously about an Auntie being spat at. A cousin's children (British, but brown), 13 and 12 were challenged in a supermarket about where they were from and what they were doing here. Life is getting tougher.

Honestly, im embarrassed reading about poor people like yourself. I dont think youll need to worry.

Remember everything he said about Brexit and the millions it would pump into the NHS... hes a BSer. And the policy changes etc needed to see that through would be a nightmare. Only thing it will do is stir up feelings of segration.

I dont think you have anything to worry about. But im so sorry you can no feel reassured you're welcome here

OMG he literally said Eastern Europeans are eating swans this week! He’s a racist cunt!

news.sky.com/story/royal-parks-responds-to-farages-claim-that-swans-are-being-eaten-by-eastern-europeans-in-the-uk-13437205

And some people seek hidden meaning where there is none and pass it off as fact.

I have settled status and I don’t want to be a British citizen particularly. If the far right get in, I don’t want to live here anymore anyway. My children have dual nationality so I guess I have to leave British DH to fend for himself.

What I do worry about is not leaving in time and not getting deported, but be denied access to state pensions and the nhs in my old (and sick) age, despite having paid into the system for 3 decades as a higher rate tax payer and never bothered the nhs as I have private healthcare.

I think everyone should worry but this will be the Turkeys voting for Christmas again. There are too many turkeys on the U.K. who just cannot connect the dots well. Farage and Trump are very clever. They know exactly how to appeal to the turkeys.

My PILs have been here for 60+ years, never wanted to give up their birth citizenship and have contributed all their UK taxes etc. They've already had to go through hoops post Brexit although they've had ILTR since "forever".
They are likely to die before such nonsense regulations go through but it doesn't stop them worrying which (at their age and state of health) they do not need.
Let's hope this country wakes itself up before 2029.

Indeed some people will most likely not meet the criteria.

We need to be far far more vocal in calling all this right wing 🐄 💩 out. Starmer and the rest of labour need to pull their fingers out and take back control of the narrative here. Farrage needs calling out on every single lie constantly and publicly.
It’s no use saying “it’s 4 years away don’t worry about it”.
NO. It needs calling out NOW every day relentlessly.

To clarify what ILR is -

While holders of certain visa types, such as visitors or short-term students, will be expected to eventually return home, some categories of limited leave may lead to settled status in the UK. Settled status gives the holder permission to stay in the UK on a permanent basis. This is known as indefinite leave to remain (ILR).
Note that ‘settled status’ with ILR is different to the EU settlement scheme for EEA nationals in the UK.
Individuals with ILR are not subject to immigration restrictions in the UK. You can leave and enter the UK at will. ILR does not expire, unless you have been absent from the UK for more than two years.
If you hold ILR status, you may also become eligible to certain entitlements, such as welfare benefits and tax credits. The exception is if your right to remain was awarded as a result of another person formally agreeing to maintain and accommodate you. In this case, you will be excluded from some benefits for five years.

I would leave in a heartbeat (DH has UK and EU citizenship and I could get mine if "a certain" consulate was ever open). But we have aged Ps on both sides.
Once they go, we're getting the hell out of here. But the conundrum is: where does rampant protectionism and racism not exist?

Royal Parks has denied that migrants eat swans.
We are living in Trumpland. I hope we are not all drinking bleach in 4 years.

I would say that those with ILR should apply for citizenship as soon as possible. Or go to the expense of the 5 yearly visa.

But how does that work in the long run? Take someone like me: higher rate taxpayer, married to a British man (also a higher rate taxpayer), two children born in England with dual citizenship. Have paid taxes here for almost two decades. In contrast have barely contributed in my home country. Eventually though, I will retire and won’t be a higher rate taxpayer/make the proposed higher salary threshold. Are you going to throw people like me out then, despite our huge contribution over decades and decades and our British families?

This is worrying me right now too. I'm trying to come back with my German husband and two children. I'm very homesick. It's hard enough getting back because of Brexit, if Reform get in, we aren't coming back (or they'd send my husband home... And we'd go with him).

Exactly.

The new face of Hitler.

Swans were being killed and eaten by migrants some years ago -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2115107/Gang-bludgeon-swan-death-nail-covered-stick-eat-luring-ashore-bread.html

and fish were being stolen -

https://www.facebook.com/reel/616850164493012

By the way the current ILR already bans holders from claiming benefits. Something most people do not know.

She is American perhaps. Her father is one nationality, her mother from another. Both her grandparents from both sides also. Tell me what is legal about her own superiority