Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

[Onegingerhead]

I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

I personally have no issue (with a huge thankyou to the taxi driver in the Punjabi style outfit who helped me earlier).

I dont think people with the wrong colour skin (because let's face it that's what most of this shit is about) will be forced to leave, but as things are now, it may be made more difficult before it gets better.

No one is going to deport citizens 🤦🏻‍♀️

My parents came here 55 years ago but when my dad passed away 13 years ago my mum had a visit from someone saying that they needed to know if she could stay in the country . I was livid because back then my mum and dad were allowed to come here as long as they had work and had somewhere to stay ( family ) They worked all their life. My dad until retirement but unfortunately got ill then passed away 5 years after . My mum stopped working at pension age . They both got their pensions from the government and were entitled to what was available . When they spoke about family “back home” I told her this is her home ,that she doesn’t have family other than her 4 daughters and 6 grandchildren. Most of her siblings have passed and parents too . My mum was never told to get citizenship and this lady said now after knowing all this , because my mum had been in the country for so long and we are her only family she doesn’t need one . My mum cried so mum . I told the lady that I wish she got her facts right before she came and scared my mum so soon after losing my dad .

Many legal residents are not citizens because dual nationality is not allowed by their home countries.
So now Reform plans no distinction between legal and illegal residents.

In general I think people don't worry enough and not early enough about big stuff but in this case I think you are overly worrying as a result of not quite grasping the difference between all these different statuses of immigrants. The strong dividing line is citizenship not origin.

As a naturalised citizen not breaking any laws, I can't imagine you have any reason to worry (as I imagine you very well know).

I'm convinced people's think the 'foreigners' that will be got rid of, are just the boat people that come over. They aren't even thinking of their friends and colleagues.
My ex husband was being snarky about foreigners being shipped back, and his customer said to him, my wife's a foreigner. The ex said, no not her all the others. But it was clear he didn't get ot

Except EU citizens are exempt from cancellation of ILRs

You only need to worry if you're not white. That's their only concern. If you're white they'll find a work around 'we don't mean you, you're like us, we meant the other foreigners'. My family are originally south African where they had a fantastic colour based model that worked for years, they'll probably follow something like that.

There has been no suggestion that all 'foreigners' are to be deported. Only people who have come illegally. I have a fair few foreign friends and I'd be the first to protest if there was even sniff of them being repatriated. It's not going to happen.

This post makes me so sad, you shouldn’t be needing to worry about these things OP. I’m sorry you are feeling this way.

There is no way reform will be able to enact this. They just lie… it will be like Boris all over again… complete waste of time - putting the country into stall. I have ILR. I would only get citizenship on my terms - e.g if I wanted to move back to my own country so I could come and go (to see child who finds my home too hot).

Do you know what an ILR is? Reform has announced that all ILR holders will be deported. Those are legal foreigners.

That's the op's point though - she isn't a citizen but has ILR/settled status.

I was born abroad and was naturalised as a child. I am not too concerned as I haven't seen any suggestion of revoking citizenship (except for certain criminals, which doesn't affect me). All of my family were also naturalised years ago as it just seemed the obvious thing to do as we planned to stay here.
DH is also a naturalised citizen, he emigrated here as an adult and started the process as soon as he was eligible, because he wanted the legal security of being a UK citizen.

But the Reform thugs won't worry about people's actual status before trying to bully them out. Abuse and attacks on brown skinned people are already happening.

For this and many other reasons I devoutly hope Reform never do get to form a government. Anyone dismissing people’s fears with ‘if you’re here legally you’ll be fine’ clearly wasn’t paying attention during the Windrush scandal. I wouldn’t trust Farage et al as far as I could throw them.

People in the US voted for Trump only to find their workforce or even spouses have been deported. Thinking 'it won't happen to us' is dangerous.

You are right that it’s the illegal immigrants that many people have a problem with…… but you are not right as to what reform are suggesting …. They are looking to take away indefinite leave to remain, to make it so much harder and less attractive for migrants to stay here. That includes people with key skills who contribute.

This is great for Farage, as by doing so it will force people out - bringing the NHS to its knees. Win win for Farage as it will open the door to privatisation - which is exactly what he wants.

Such a shame that so many of the people that are voting him in are the same that won’t be able to afford the 3rd rate two tier private healthcare we will be getting - if they succeed. Just look where we are with dentists, this will be where we are with doctors and healthcare too….. dig deep people, we will need all the pennies in the jar…

I am Australian and I have Indefinite Leave to Remain. I have been here since 2005. My husband is British. My two sons were born here in 2010 and 2012.

One of the reasons I left my last professional job in 2022 was because my line manager (in a law firm of all places) started screaming in my face about fucking migrants and 'British jobs for British people'. The equity partners just shrugged and said 'you know what she is like'.

I feel real anger and fear at Reform's idea they will rescind the permanent visas of legal migrants. I have made my life here. My family is here. There are deeply personal reasons why I never took British citizenship, but i have paid untold taxes and am a net contributor on my own, never mind my household being a net contributing household.

I'm ready to give up on the UK. Everywhere I turn I am being taxed to the fucking hilt and I am being told I am not welcome here. I see this country I loved going to the dogs. I have options. My children are dual cits and have options. DH and I have discussed cutting and running. It's sad tbh. because this was always emant to be where we and our children lived out our days. No more. I don't care anymore.

Some people used that line in 1930s Germany. Just so you're aware.

No- have you not read what they plan to do? They plan to rescind the visas of people who are here legally. Not illegally. Legally.

My dds best friend is a young man whose mum is from India, he was born here and she says it's awful when they go out because people are always looking at him with suspicion, obviously because of his colour and he has a beard. What these morons don't know is that they own a million pound care company which employs over 100 carers and pays thousands into the treasury and he is now thinking of leaving as he feels very unwelcome and unsafe so I think a lot of people will leave even if Nigel doesn't get in. Really hope he doesn't.

There has been that very suggestion, by Farage on Monday, aimed at people with Indefinite Leave to Remain i.e. those here legally long term, but are not citizens.

I think you're rather foolish if you've been in the UK that long and haven't applied for citizenship. No, you shouldn't have to, but you should plan for the worst, and the worst is your right to be here will be stripped away. I applied for citizenship as soon as the Brexit referendum was announced - I didn't actually think those wishing to leave the EU would win, but I thought I should protect myself just in case. The hostile migrant policy was still very much in place, which made the application process much more difficult than it should have been, so you should be prepared for that (and no right to challenge anything about the process or outcome). If your home country doesn't allow dual/multi nationality, then I would seriously consider putting some plans in place should you need/wish to leave the UK.