Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

[Onegingerhead]

I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

Abolishing money is a lousy idea. Money is a great equaliser - a disabled person’s £10 is worth as much as an able bodied person’s £10, their life doesn’t rely on a series of favours and obligations that may be pulled from under their feet at any point. People calling for communism or a purely holistic society have no idea what they’re suggesting.

Lol....there would literally be no teachers left to teach all the white British kids.

If Reform look like winning nearer the next election I suggest all those at risk (plus their partners, adult children and friends) get organised to start civil disobedience - after all nearly 20% (according to Google) of the population of Eng & Wales in 2023 were foreign born. I'd suggest that number could stop the Reform racists in their tracks, and send Farage & their like running away like the cowards they are.

A vote (often by a minority of those who could vote, like the 2016 Referendum) doesn't give the "winners" the right to act as Reform seems to want to do. If they carry on, we need to fight.

I cannot find any mention of indefinite leave to remain or settled status in that document. Can you point me to it?

You said "them" not "them all". I'm guessing the majority would not meet the £60k threshold though.

If they don't stop the boats, detain/deport illegals they will be more hated than the current government we have. That is saying something

I don't agree that reform is far right. They dropped Rupert Lowe, who I still respect, like a hot potato because he thinks Nigel is too soft with his policies. They have been accused of being centre left if anything

There are two things which are bullshit:

• that Reform has really thought through their idea including the number
• the whole spiel that it’s much better to accept Reform because there can be worse parties. One, it’s absolutely not inevitable that anyone needs to accept them. Second, its a purely propagandist argument

Don't be ridiculous! 😁
Reform may end up with 10 or so MPs.
Even if they won 326, are they going to deport millions of people like Nazi Germany??
Their only policy is to deport illegal immigrants back to France, the same policy as Labour and Tories.

It's almost as if Reform voters are individual people and not just chunks of a bogeyman.

All these people who are saying Reform will only deport the terrorists are smoking crack.

Firstly, there aren’t enough terrorists to deport to make any dent in immigration.

And secondly, they are following the Trump playbook to the letter. Trump said exactly the same thing - he’d go after the bad guys - yet he is rounding up all sorts of people, who’ve been in America for years, made their lives there, paid taxes, married locals, children are US citizens, etc.

Who’d want to live in a country like that? I don’t think the majority or UK citizens would. It’d be so drastic and reminiscent of what history has taught us not to repeat.

It would just be the most horrible thing. Reform has suddenly gone from promising to control illegal immigration to deporting people who have been here for years, working in essential services and paying a fortune in taxes, unless they buy an expensive visa every five years and earn a lot of money. It is just disgusting and how people can support snake oil salesman Farage is beyond me. Man of the people this multimillionaire with a German (EU) passport is not. As he was described at the US Congress on free speech recently, he is a Putin-loving Trump sycophant, "and you might want to think twice before letting Nigel Farage make Britain great again". One can only imagine the degree of racism his abhorrent policies would unleash.

Yes. Because the problem in public finances comes from British scroungers anf pensioners and not immigrants (who are mostly young /contribute in taxes - or enable their partner to contribute like housewives do). And not even asylum seekers.

? Or the non white British children presumably?

Oh, I don't think they'll limit themselves to just foreign-born pensioners. I don't even think they'll limit themselves to all pensioners. I reckon anyone who doesn't fit their ideal of the 'model citizen' will be up for grabs (literally). I don't think their conscience will be troubled by "mission creep" at all.

Now I'm sorry, but especially that last part is bullshit 🤣 Reform is the best of a bad bunch. Lib Dems are laughable. Labour and the Tories have destroyed this country, their time is over. The digital ID is the nail in the coffin. The other parties are too small before I even went into their policies.

I'd rather take my chances and trust reform will do a satisfactory job, than trust these existing parties track record

Never said they weren't.

Just amused that so much energy is being expended on arguing a whole lot of mutually contradictory positions against unbelievers-in-Nigel, whilst totally ignoring said contradictions in fellow-Reformers. Like ships passing in the night...

I don't know about Malaysia but for Germany I have to state that I have dual nationality when I apply/renew for a passport and I have to say if I got it through birth (like DD has) or if I naturalised by application for another nationality and which one.

I had to present my naturalisation certificate and passport (if I have one).

This needs to be confirmed every time I apply for a passport renewal.

That only shows that people see what they want in political declarations.

The reality is - you might believe or want to tackle ONLY illigal immigration, if the Larry you’re supporting by voting fur them is saying we will deport all immigrants with ILR (aka legal immigrants), it doesn’t matter what you think. You’ve just given support to deporting legal immigrants.

But people rarely want to hear that. They prefer to live in their dreamland where one politician (in this case Farage, but it could be of them tbh) will solve problems, just the way THEY want

I think realistically, over the next four years, if Trump, or rather the US as a whole, ends up doing well, then Reform will have a decent shot at getting in here. If not, the landscape could look quite different.
Sometimes I just wish there were a place on Earth where all of us unwanted foreigners could go and quietly rebuild our lives. A sort of “island of misfit immigrants”

Ah, did you mean to post this one?

https://www.scribd.com/document/920701129/Reform-Averting-the-Boriswave

Don’t worry, I earn 3 times over the threshold and have a citizenship. Say thank you to highly qualified immigrants like me next time you attend a GP appointment.

and as a person who knows a lot more about legal immigrants who hold ILR (how little they are entitled to or use in benefits or finances and how much more they actually contribute) I know as well how dumb Reform ideas are.
first it was EU fault - somehow Brexit failed to deliver the riches (just the opposite).
now it is legal migrants with ILR

after they are kicked out and that will invariably fail to
improve the economy (again just the opposite) there will be another hair brained idea to find someone else to blame
good luck 😂

Now do the same thing for all the other political parties. You'll find a mess of contradictions for them all.

Implying that Reform voters should all agree about everything isn't the slam dunk you think it is.

And in answer to a PP, I do hate Reform, I was born here, mu parents were born here, I'm not "of colour" by the way, but the suggestion that all Reform-haters are somehow "foreigners" is a foretaste of the kind of rampant bigotry we can expect if these charlatans win power.

How can a party with no track record (and only a bunch of known grifters and inexperienced ideologues) gain your trust though? You know that change can also mean change for the worse?