Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

[Onegingerhead]

I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

Sigh. Read the thread.

Can you give an example of where the context of what he said has changed the meaning?

They are given a disproportionately large platform for their size though. That’s my issue with the amount of air time he gets.
that and the fact his lies are never called out as he says them.

Can you give an example of scaremongering?

Quoting what he has said and clarifying what that means is not scaremongering.

Maybe Reform do get a disproportionate amount of airtime, I don't know about that. Do you have any evidence of it?

I mean, it was fair enough that Reform got airtime when making a big announcement about new Reform policy that could potentially affect many people and change our vote if we knew about it in advance.

Generally speaking, do they get more airtime than the Lib Dems or Conservatives? I would be interested to know.

Anyone to the left of Nigel Farage it would seem!

I can't see anything even remotely far left on this thread.

I'm so sorry you feel that way. I don't honestly believe it is more than half the people. I just think the ones who feel that way have been granted licence to voice their opinions and are doing it loudly.

Will the same fools who voted for Labour now vote for Reform in the hope that things will be better? It will only continue getting worse.

OP is a naturalised citizen. So no need to worry. I'm also naturalised and I'm brown. I'm not worried. Even the Trump administration hasn't done this.

(And yes I admit I should have read the whole thread)

Exactly this. It’s frightening.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/who-are-reform-party-uk-nigel-farage-meme-study-coverage-378805/

yes and studies support that

Sigh. Yes, read the thread. People who have already been here a long time and have had their rights guaranteed by law should not be forced to apply for citizenship. It's a far more complex point than your overly simplified posts suggest, again read the thread. You posted twice saying you haven't, what is the point in that, read through, then comment.

I just spoke to my British family members about that. The consensus was that this occurs because the media titans as well as NF have identified immigration issues as money spinners for them and whether they personally believe in what is being said or not makes no difference, they are grifters who will spin this narrative to maximise their profits, then simply milk them.

Very naive. Hope it doesn't come back to bite.
The Trump administration hasn't done this yet.
Naturalized citizens, along with anyone black or brown are the logical next target if going after anyone they make illegal doesn't work.

i think this is the case.all of a sudden it’s considered ok to say these abhorrent things. They’ve been legitimised as an acceptable view point.

Maybe I’m being naive, these people are in the minority they are just very very vocal, loud and often aggressive which makes it hard to voice a more moderate view.

ive corrected people with facts when they’ve said them socially, I’ve protested, I’ve called people out for using racist language and terms when out. But there are times for personal safety you can’t.

Around the last election I would absolutely expect the Conservatives to have got the most coverage, as the current government.

I would also have expected Labour to get the second most amount of coverage as the official opposition party.

I would have expected Lib Dem and Reform to get about the same amount of coverage so it's interesting that they didn't. Thank you for posting that study.

And the more they stoke the fires the bigger it burns. So the more fuel gets put on and the bigger it grows.

meanwhile the good news is buried, the other issues are buried. It all comes down to shouting about immigration.

i think you are right in many ways.

I am Australian as I have said, and am (fwiw) white. Since Brexit happened I have been on the receiving end of a number of incidences of being verbally attacked for being a migrant. In all the years I had been in the UK before that there was not a single incident. Like I said in my first post, i had my line manager screaming in my face. There were no consequences for her. Our neighbour started shouting at me over the shared fence 'when will YOU get your fucking visa then?'. (I mean.... thinking isn't his strong point... Brexit meant EU nationals had to apply, not someone from a non-EU country to whom getting a visa was ALWAYS the case). A few milder comments of 'Guess you'll be going home then now' etc, which brings you up short because they are said with a certain amount of ill-disguised pleasure that you might be leaving. There has been also an increase in anti-Australian comments, some of which i have posted about on MN at various points under various names. Hand on heart i cannot recall a single time any of that happened beforehand. It's like the closet racists and have been emboldened to say it because they think EVERYONE thinks it now and you are fair game.

I used to say that about the Trump administration. It was obvious in Term1 that Trumpism attracted mostly incompetent, often creepy, grifters. The transition to Term1 was done very incompetently, for instance. Over time (by start of Term2) more & more competent people have joined Trumpism. Project25 is all about mutual benefit between a specific group of conservative social reformers & Trumpism (Trumpism is basically all about benefiting and glorifying DJT, let's face it!).

Reform has now attracted a lot more actually competent people who want ... power. The Reform mayor on BBCR4 QuestionTime last night being an example. Competence among people who don't care about humans having human rights is a threat.

Although Reform wants to destroy individual civil and legal rights when the individuals aren't (white?) from-birth British citizens, I'm not sure they want to remove civil+legal rights from all political opponents. This difference from Trumpism is hopefully important.

There’s another more recent study, which I cannot find the link for at the moment, It showed things have got worse with disproportionate coverage.

Sorry to say it but I think a lot of people are assuming that Reform will be the main opposition party in the next election, with Labour getting the most coverage as the current party in power.

If the polls keep showing Reform scoring higher than Conservatives, I would expect them to get the second highest coverage around the next election. With Conservatives and Lib Dems getting less coverage.

jesus, im so sorry this is what your experiencing (I know this is contentious!) we have the same bloody king. Not saying it’s ok for anyone to be on the receiving end. But we literally share a monarch and a history

My husband was like you op, got an ILR after we got married although his work also qualified him for ILR.
Thankfully he got citizenship about 8 years ago but if he hadn't I would tell him to do it now.
I actually don't think Farage will get in and if he does I can't see how he implements this anyway, to me it's a vote chaser and nothing else.
That said I wouldn't play roulette with something like this and would take steps to secure myself

And if they keep pushing them over anyone else without any correction of the lies.
It will be a self fulfilling prophecy

I agree it would be fairer if they gave the 4 main parties say, equal coverage.

And plenty of opportunity for lies/misinformation to be corrected ahead of the vote.