Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

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I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

I'm so glad you find it abrasive, it is so deliberately. I will not have Farage shitting into my nest and then read your apologist posts and smile - why should I?

Many Brits get offended at reading the truth about how passive and on the fence you are in politics and social issues, but it is the truth. Respectfully, you don't sound like you have any first hand comparison in that regard whatsoever.

If some EU nationals pay for UK citizenship that is a matter for them. They may well be doing it for various reasons. Nigel Farage in power should never be one of them.

You don't have to like my posts and I'm glad you don't, I'd be surprised if you said anything else based on your own posts. Have a good evening!

I am so sorry for any forgiven born person working in the UK.
My NHS working DD is foreign born.

My DD has British citizenship through me and she has my English SE accent. However, she was shocked to be asked if she was going home at Brexit time because it is noted on official papers her place of birth. This was before she married an English man.

This is a replay of Brexit when many of the staff left to go ‘home’ closing wards. These wards BJ was saying, he was opening, yes they opened but there was and still are no staff
Farage is copying his hero Trump. Next on the list is American private health care instead of the NHS.

So, what happens to the OP when she gets sick and can't work and needs support from the government? Or when her child gets a long term illness and she needs to take time off work to care for them, and needs support from the government? Is she welcome then? Or not anymore, in spite of all the years she's contributed?

this - it is the illegals who we have issue with NOT those who contribute

any other view from someone is known as a massive racist.

Withou immigration the NHS would collapse, nursing homes would have no care teams (as the majority are from abroad!) etc
we NEED immigration, just a better system like australia

Nope - this does not cover access to pensions or benefits, drill into the detail a bit more.

If you read OPs updates she has British citizenship already.

Well did you come here illegally on a boat and then start to threaten and sexually assault women, or carry a knife around?! No then dont be ridiculous. People need a reality check and understand people like me are sick of these men coming on boats, taking over our quiet towns and causing so much problems. They are the problems not you and Reform has never said that you are!!!

Didn’t he say people who came here and have never worked or paid into our system? As you say you are working so it wouldn’t apply to you

Reform have risen in popularity precisely because people are no longer "passive" or "respectful" We actually need an end to slanderous and reckless politics not a promotion of it, if you want to see the end of populism!

It is a temporary carve out for EU citizens on IDL.
There is no information about what temporary means.

reform claim they will negotiate with the Eu to change the Withdrawal Agreement but the EU says otherwise.
Its not like re-opening the Withdrawal Agreement isn't a can of worms now is it.

No, you've misunderstood. "Settled Status" and "ILR" go hand-in-hand - anyone who has achieved settled status by living in the UK lawfully and continuously for at least 5 years (or at least 3 years if married to or in a civil partnership with a British Citizen) has ILR.
Reform said the changes would not apply to EU nationals whose settled status is protected under the European Union Withdrawal Agreement, so it is indeed non-EU migrants who should be concerned about this as it is their ILR that Farage is suggesting he would rescind and replace with 5 year work visas.
Of course, this is all smoke and mirrors (as usual) by Farage and his wild claims of the savings they'd make with this change, because the majority of benefit claims made by people with ILR are actually EU nationals, not non-EU nationals. Obviously this is a level of detail that won't trouble the minds of Farage supporters - they don't do detail, much less complexity.

Well let’s lobby the government to get their shit together, then Reform won’t get in. Starmer’s been fannying about since he got in. He got rid of the Rwanda proposal, and then literally just ignored the situation hoping it would go away, and that we’d all be too thick to notice.

Ok I may have got muddled up re the terms "settled status " and ILR (more complicated than I realised) but we agree on the main point which is as you say that Reform said the changes would not apply to EU nationals whose settled status is protected under the European Union Withdrawal Agreement, so it is indeed non-EU migrants who should be concerned about this as it is their ILR that Farage is suggesting he would rescind and replace with 5 year work visas.

No he wasn't just talking about people who have never worked or paid into our system.

The UK government is not that silly.....Around Brexit we had a prayer group and a British preacher started almost crying how oh, the poor kids in school now will have their mummies sent back home....I was like: really? Sorry. I think that I am just going to be settled for life ( giving a prophecy, not really, just what an average logical mind would come up with ) and because I am married with a British and am here, all the time, that is the simple logic right?

The government follows the sentiments and logic of the ones most concerned or at least they try....

living in fear in a foreign country. WHY? Why did you come if you cannot live in peace

You are passive in a sense you do not believe Reform is a real threat. Also passive in a sense that many won't vote at all, won't vote against it - out of lack of care, education regarding what their policies really mean or misinformation. This is a passive approach, not taking responsibility for educating yourselves enough to make an informed decision and not protesting openly against racist and xenophobic politicians. Not everyone in this country does it, and this is not an exclusively British problem, but in this country people do tend to put up and shut up a lot more than in continental Europe and unfortunately the outcome of that won't be pretty for anyone.

If I lived elsewhere from my birth country for that long I would seek citizenship in that country, don't see an issue with it. I mean legal migrants who have just arrived. Supposedly, people were meant to have paid into the system for so many years before being entitled to benefits. Which again makes sense but hasn't been happening. If I moved to another country and hadn't paid in I wouldn't expect those people to be paying for me! Most countries Brits can't move to if they don't have the means to support themselves, which is fair and to be expected. If you've been here and paying in for thirty years I would class you as British dear! No need to get your knickers in a twist!

The Rwanda scheme was utterly unworkable bollocks, as reality showed.

@Twiglets1 isn't spreading misinformation, that's unfair (she was a little confused about the relationship between settled status and ILR, that's all).
Please read this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c930xypxpqpo
Specifically the paragraph: "Reform said the changes would not apply to EU nationals whose settled status is protected under the European Union Withdrawal Agreement - and who make up the majority of benefit claimants by people with ILR."

Agree. It was crap, just like the current one in one out policy. It’s just a token effort which won’t have any effect at all. What I’m saying is that it’s fine to get rid of something if you don’t think it’s workable. But at least create something in its place that’s going to work better.

“Nigel Farage’s claim that Reform UK will save £234 billion by banning foreigners from claiming benefits is facing mounting scrutiny, after it emerged that there would be a temporary carve-out for EU citizens.”

Nigel Farage plan to save £234bn from migrant benefit cuts ‘falling apart’

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6cb1fb2a-f4ef-4257-8e5a-a88fe793b96b?shareToken=0ebc3dcfa65a4b54bf1859208d9e1c73

Thank you @AngelicKaty

I fear for how your post will be received but thanks anyway.

No it doesn't. Naturalisation can be a route to obtaining British Citizenship if you don't automatically qualify through other types of British Citizenship, but it is not the same.

Totally agree with this. I dread to think what would happen to the hospital I work in, I think it would have to close!