Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

[Onegingerhead]

I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

As far as I understand this, it's about illegals, particularly those on benefits. Europeans not included, particularly those with 'right to remain' or a long history of integration. Same as Australia I guess

He’s not one of their MPs. He is an independent. He had an argument with Nige in March.

It wasn't one isolated case

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2115107/Gang-bludgeon-swan-death-nail-covered-stick-eat-luring-ashore-bread.html

Born in India to Indian parents. We came to England when I was 1 and I’ve got citizenship and a certificate of naturalisation. I’m not worried at all. I’m not a criminal or terrorist. I am 100 percent sure if you’re like me you’ll be fine and as for racists, I’ve experienced insults here and there but that’s all. I find there’s a lot of sensational media and personalities stoking up fear and division. If they do plan to evict foreigners, which I highly doubt, I wonder where the line would be drawn? How indigenous are people living here?

I’m sorry, but I think you’re wrong to believe this. Look at what Trump has achieved on the other side of the Atlantic since January and then use your imagination to see what could well happen if Reform, led by Farage, gets in in 4 years from now. It is mind-bogglingly awful. Work to stop it happening, would be my advice.

Are you an illegal immigrant or do you have papers to say you can stay here.Sorry if misunderstood.

Illegals don’t get benefits 🤦🏻‍♀️

The royal parks and police confirmed it was bollocks.
where I live we do have an issue with people shooting swans and ducks. But it’s not immigrants doing that

nigel Farage was the one who said our gun rules were draconian- I saw the interview.

I’m not worried in the slightest, but being a white migrant who has largely lost her accent is a handy insight into which acquaintances and work colleagues are secret xenophobes. 🤭

They have free hotel accommodation, food and drinks, a bus pass, daily allowance, free healthcare and counselling. I think that is more than enough for free without benefits as well! Of course the social housing, UC and free services for life all come later once they have lied their way through the system.

Okay, once more. Farage specifically referred to people with Indefinite Leave to Remain.

Legal migrants. Not illegal migrants. People keep banging on about how it's only targeted at the illegal migrants. Farage very specifically said it was for people like me and many many others on this thread who have a legal settled status. Granted to us by the UK Government after we met all the requirements that the UK Government set down. Not only that, Farage said he would resciond this settled status for those who already have it.

I completely understand how this seems incomprehensible to the point that people cannot actually believe it. But,this IS what he has said.

www.gov.uk/indefinite-leave-to-remain

@Onegingerhead I think if this country reaches the stage of stripping naturalised immigrants of British citizenship, we'd basically be at Armageddon levels of this country going down the toilet. So we would have far bigger things to worry about at that juncture.

But I also think that a whole lot of people who previously claimed stuff like "I'm only concerned about illegal migration" have happily progressed to "I'm concerned about legal migrants who don't pay enough tax" then to "I'm concerned about legal migrants who don't display sufficient obsequious gratitude" and this week it has all neatly culminated in Nigel's Trump card of retrospectively rendering legal migrants into illegal ones.

And people who are happily sliding along this route are expecting to see fewer immigrants around if Reform gains more political power - they'll want to see results for their votes, and are not going to be checking passport stamps and payslips when deciding whether to abuse someone who looks foreign.

Illegal immigrants can't claim UK benefits.

Absolutely and it just feeds into the narrative of poor brown ethnic minorities. I’ve got brown skin but it’s the least interesting thing about me. We need to look beyond this stuff. Only racists can’t and they are stupid and incompetent. That doesn’t include those who MSM call racist by the way, there’s so many lies out there.

Maybe.

Everyone can relax because apparently the figures that Reform were using are wrong.

It seems Dianne Abbot has been doing the government's figures again.

Hopefully it's all bollocks or the NHS will collapse. They should only aim to remove illegals

They are not illegals at that’s rage they are applying as refugees . The true illegals do not go thought that process . I should add I don’t agree with all that simply given but in this fight it’s important go use proper terms

Farage did acknowledge it wouldn't affect European people as there is a reciprocal agreement since Brexit. It is the non EU nationals he would target if he gets into power.

But Nigel Farage WANTS to collapse the NHS.

Are you really still not seeing that the idea is that his chums will take over private healthcare, like in Trumpland?

If they decided to 'send everyone back', there would probably only be reform MPs and other official politicians like local counsellors left in England.
It's an awful, ridiculous idea but it's possibly going to gain enough traction to get votes and more reform MPs. Whether they get enough? I wouldn't like to think so.
I completely get why you are worried, @Onegingerhead A lot of my colleagues and people I volunteer with are not from the UK. They are worried too, and we've all (I have a non-UK surname by marriage) experienced a more hostile environment since 2016 and the Brexit vote.

@CallMeEvelyn im with you there.

I don’t feel British. Probably never will.
And that’s one reason why I’ve always refused to get the British citizenship.

But this time, I’m going to relent and do it.
I hate it. I resent to have been pushed into a corner to do something I don’t believe in. But a relunctant British I will be 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Never minidisc I will never be accepted as such.

Stating immigrants are eating swans is not the same as you suggesting he hates foreigners because 'Farage literally said as much in a speech last week.' I repeat he has said no such thing about hating foreigners. You're just making it up as you go along.

He also acknowledged that he was thinking about removing the rights to ‘benefits’ for EU citizens.
Which could well include state pension.
Or access to the NHS

I worry so much too. I'm in uk since 98 and on low paid job.
Sadly my in-laws always voted brexit and reform, even DH.
I always hear: but it's not gonna affect you, we only mean those ,,bad,, illegals, its not you.
Also PIL thinks I have automatic citizenship just by being in UK, apparently it happens automatically without any applications etc, so he doesn't believe me, when I say i don't have citizenship as can't afford 2k plus dh wouldn't let me apply anyway as not needed as,, according I'm safe as I'm from EU and long time here, , .
So yes it will be me going packing. I dont know where will I go, as I have nothing left in my old country.
Im old now so I just don't know what will happen.