Are all of us foreigners just going to be told to pack up and leave if Reform win?

[Onegingerhead]

I might be totally unreasonable here (or not), but please hear me out.
(Bloody) foreigner here — I’ve lived in the UK since 2001. Built my whole life here: house, husband, DC, the lot. Worked the whole time in a field that requires the highest level of qualification.
I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections. This week (as we all heard) our beloved Reform suggested rescinding ILR or even settled status from Europeans. God knows what else they’ll come up with, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they went after naturalised Brits next and started revoking citizenship, just to please the voters.
I know a lot of foreign-born women — some married to born-and-bred Brits, some to other Europeans (not always from the same country), some to men from overseas. All sorts of combinations.
So what do you think lies ahead for us? Will we be politely asked to leave, or will things just get so hostile that we’re pushed out anyway? And how likely is it that people who aren’t very white, or who have an accent, will face more discrimination in work?
I’m meeting my foreign friends tonight and we’ll be talking about it. For most of us, moving now would be incredibly difficult. We’re late 30s to early 50s, and starting over in a new country isn’t exactly easy. Some of us are married to men from different countries entirely, and we don’t even speak each other’s languages well enough to get proper jobs there.

AIBU and should think we will actually be allowed to stay?
AINBU sorry but you’d better start planning your move now

I can’t imagine it, and I sincerely hope not - but in your position I’d organise a citizenship to be on the safe side and peace of mind.

Well said.

And “illegals”

There are some awful comments on this thread.

Pretty much my logic. Why do I have to BUY (LOL) myself a passport????? I am married with a British and gave the Crown a British child.

Their own government gave me legal settled status for life and I don't live like a mad cow 5 years here and there////-bizarre

I don't want to vote for the clowns and pedophiles

I am not an ass licker and never planned to come here. Came as aupair and a man loved me and got me.

Probably , I wish we all did it and let the country go to sh*t .

I understand your concern OP, but you have to remember Farage, Tice, et al will promise anything to get elected, but once they're in No. 10 (assuming there's a large enough group of dullards who don't recognise that the first thing Farage will do is sell off the NHS to his mate, Trump) they will be constrained by the laws of our democracy, the same as anyone else. In order to revoke UK ILR legislation, they will have to get this passed through the Commons and the Lords, which would be no mean feat. It's one thing to want to stop economic migrants from safe countries coming here with no visa, but I honestly believe that the majority of UK citizens are decent and fair-minded and would not support the repatriation of "foreigners" who have made their lives here for decades, working, paying taxes and contributing to the wealth of the UK.

IMO these reform scaremongering threads aren’t being posted by scared foreigners at all. They’re being posted by reform plants.

We are talking about four years from now and already people are talking as if reform have won or are on the verge of winning an election. There isn’t even an election to win at this stage, and there is 0 chance of an election being called at this point.

But by whipping up an “I’m so scared of what is going to happen to me/my friend/my colleague who is from another country thread, reform are keeping themselves and their agenda in the spotlight.

Moreover, they’re stirring up discussion of all those immigrants that people are so scared/fed up of.

Nobody needs to be discussing reform at this point. They have 0 power. Four years is a long time, by then the likes of Farage and his ilk who won seats will be out because they’ll have proven themselves, we have no idea what is going to change in the economy in four years and whether things will be different.

So most of us won’t even be discussing the next general election for another 3.5 years or so.

So maybe people should just avoid these not so subtle pro reform threads.

And the media should stop giving that odious little cunt Farage airtime. Seriously why do they?

I’m so very very sorry. My heart sank at that news this morning. Just utter disbelief that people can believe the complete vile bollocks that comes out of farages mouth.

swans, dismantling the nhs, rolling back gun laws. Whilst avoiding tax.
regardless of how you feel about immigration I don’t know how people get past that.

You can't just migrate to the UK and start claiming benefits, that's not how the system works. You are being sold a false story to propel farage into power.

In theory, the US doesn’t allow dual citizenship. In practice is a different matter. My DSis took US citizenship(largely for tax purposes) after her American dh died, and at the ceremony the officiating dignitary said in his speech that they knew perfectly well that a lot of ‘new Americans’ would be retaining their old passports.

In any case, even if you very publicly chucked your UK passport on a bonfire, you could apply for a new one the next day, no problem.

Check the news because this week was announced that Reform plans indeed to go after the legal immigrants. By removing ILR you are effectively targeting the migrants that work and pay taxes and are here legally.

Eh? this sounds like a lot of rubbish, sorry OP. Stirring pot and all that.

ou have citizenship FGS. You're not an illegal immigrant.

This was about CK but NF uses a similar approach.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17LjimjSSJ/

LOL, Evelyn just made me laugh, I am going to inquire how much a British passport for another foreigner with pale skin and massive green eyes cost , actually going right now

@Onegingerhead Reform's main focus will be the huge numbers of men, aged 18 - 34, who are entering the country without showing any regard for laws of the UK and the UK's border controls.

Personally, I'm in disbelief that I'm expected to believe that all victims of war and conflict are men aged 18 - 34, as if children, the elderly, and women are somehow supposedly immune to these conflicts.

My SIL is a foreigner. She is married to my brother who is British (our whole family is British except for SIL).

She got married to DB in 2005 and has been living and working in the UK since and has one DC who is 18 and at university.

2 or 3 years ago, she tried to get British citizenship. It costs ££££ and takes ages. The Home Office messed up her application so badly that they gave her a full refund. If she wants citizenship, she has to start the process again, which is a massive headache.

Several members of the family have advised her to apply for citizenship again in case Reform gets in. Theoretically she shouldn't need citizenship because she has permanent right of abode.

Thanks. I need to look into this more carefully. I would be surprised to find even Farage seriously proposing to deport people who are consistently in work in jobs earning at or above the median wage but from what you say it does sound like their current proposals may be pretty extreme.

Not so much bollocks - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9800839/Police-hunt-swan-killers-over-fears-birds-are-being-stolen-to-eat.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1260031/Immigrants-blamed-rape-river-swans-mutilated-fish-stocks-down.html

And it was Ed Davey who made the claim about gun laws

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-reform-uk-calais-lbc-british-b1249370.html

One isolated case cannot be applied to every Eastern European!

Some local kids here destroyed a swans nest and destroyed the eggs so are we now assuming all British kids kill swans too?

I applied as soon as Brexit happened. Can’t even remember how much it cost a few years back, but I knew something like this was coming. It’s a lot of money for many, but if your home country allows dual citizenship then needs must.
Most kids born to foreign parents if the parents have been here long enough (ILR/settled status etc.) can usually get British citizenship straight away. I’ve even signed a few passport applications for my friends’ kids.
But I do worry about being stripped of my British nationality, even though I’ve got no plans to become a terrorist. I am a worrier, though.
Probably my DH should start learning my mother tongue… but being a man in his 40s and hopeless with languages, I’m fairly sure he’ll be crap at it

The civil unrest that would cause would be off the scale. No I don’t think people who are settled and have followed correct VISA protocols will be at risk of mass deportation. To be honest I’d be absolutely AMAZED if Farage could get those out of the country that have failed multiple asylum claims such is the legal framework around this stuff.

This !!! It’s like people are only allowed to have rights if they want to swear loyalty to the freaking king !!! I do not want a British passport ! It’s bad enough my kids had to have it

I’m getting increasingly worried about the talk of Reform winning in 2029. Some even say it could be sooner if Labour are pushed into early elections.

OP - there aren’t going to be early elections. Labour won a massive landslide of seats just 1 year ago. They’re not going to be “pushed” into throwing away power just because Nigel is currently several points ahead in the polls and fancies a general election with them leading the race. That’s not how it works.

Reform has been around 30% in the polls for at least half a year - but basically no more than that. That’s their peak. Four years until the next election and thatis a life time in politics. Labour will almost certainly come back.

Quite frankly if you and others labeled simplistically as 'immigrants' have to go, then I am going too. Let's go somewhere nice :)

I very much doubt this as it would be a huge process that defies logistics. From what I've procured the removal will be aimed at illegal immigration, not those who have genuinely come as refugees/asylum seekers and are going through the settling process.

I really can't believe they could or would do that, hope I'm not being naive...