The council should be taking down England flags in public places?

[fourfoxsakes]

I have driven through a couple of areas in the last few days where England flags are being displayed on public lamp posts, it makes me feel very uncomfortable and unwelcome in the area and I think gosh I’m glad I don’t live here, but why are the council not taking them down?

What height ladder do you suggest?

I agree with you that would great!

It will be because the call to raise these flags has been made by the racist agitator, Tommy Robinson.

It makes me feel uncomfortable and I'm white. I can imagine it would feel much more uncomfortable if I wasn't.

The Union flag and the flag of St George are obviously not always used as racist symbols, but sometimes they are. How are people of colour supposed to know?

Half mast height obvs

I thought you wanted it done properly?

Unless you are in mourning, obvs

I dont want anything done properly, im just taking the piss, the whole flag thig is stupid, from both sides.

Most English people never cared about flying the English flag before now so we know why they are suddenly so patriotic, however it is England and the flag should be flown if wanted. Tbh the more flags that go up the less controversial it would be and it would hopefully lose the whole racism connection

I was wondering

It's hard to know these days who is serious and who is taking the piss.

How do you know what the flag represents to other people?

In a local town we had them up for VJ day. Loads of people were announcing that they 'knew' they were right wing and were there to intimidate 'non-English' people, despite the fact that it had all been arranged with the British Legion ages before the current flag outbreak.

They wouldn't listen when they were told the real reason. Apparently they knew better.

England flags in England make you feel unwelcome?

I think it would look nice if it was all done in an orderly way (same height on each lamppost) an upside down Union Jack flag half way up a lamppost looks naff. Imo do it right or don't do it at all.

Yes, when they have been raised on request from a racist agitator and street thug.

Do check your facts.

It's very obviously not allowed to hang flags (or anything else) on street furniture like streetlights, bridges, signs etc without permission, which I'm guessing is what the op is referring to.

Really? Do you know the person who hung the flags?

The Union flag and the flag of St George are obviously not always used as racist symbols, but sometimes they are. How are people of colour supposed to know?

Check the fixture lists? Lots of St George's flags around HQ this afternoon and lots of Swing Low being sung, wonderful sight and sound. Whisper it, but many of the fans were 'of colour' and looked very happy.

If it is 'illegal' why were the Ukrainian flags not removed or the Hamas flags that seem to be de rigeur at the moment?

That’s not what’s bothering the OP, though, is it? She’s feeling triggered by the sight of our national flag on display everywhere. Which, to me, seems really odd - since when you’re in England, why be surprised to see an England flag? 🤷‍♀️

She is talking about flags on lamp posts everywhere, not those displayed properly

Whisper it, but most people don't live in liberal south west London.

No. No-one does.

That's the point.

Maybe they are flying with good intent. Maybe they aren't.

But they are flying after a racist street thug has asked the nation to fly them.

If you are uncomfortable with the English flag then maybe you need to move? It's very normal for a country to fly their own flag. I live in Wales and see Welsh flags all the time. No big deal.

Yes, that's exactly the attitude the racists want you to take.

"If you don't like it here, maybe you should move."

Maybe you should consider why you share a position with the Tommy Robinsons of this world.

The council = tax payer money and time. If you want to spend your time and money doing it off you go but I would rather mine went on education and social care

I've not seen Ukrainian or Palestinian (guessing that's what you mean 🙄) flags hanging on every lamppost - have you?

I've no problem seeing individuals, companies or government building flying flags from a flag pole.

When it's a bunch of shouting idiots messing about with a big ladder in the middle of a busy road, not so much.

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers" - Socrates