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Teacher asked who chose the pink bottle....

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Caszekey · 26/09/2025 11:33

Ok, so it's more aibu to allow / encourage this behaviour.
Fairly identifiable so here goes.
5 year olds twin boys, both have long hair like their Dad which I put up for school. Ones favourite colour is pink. Both adore Frozen so wanted the dress up dresses (Kristoff is a minor character). Last WBD they dressed as Goldilocks and Red Riding Hood (bear, wolves are minor characters). School have jokingly passed comment previously about pink bobbles etc but today I was asked, incidentally, if I chose the pink bottles or them, do I pick costumes etc.
I don't know if she's curious or implying I'm doing something wrong but it's got me second guessing

The choices are child led and I reckon they'll age out of them but I don't want to pull the "boys don't do that" line when girls have so much fun.

So aibu to allow them to pick so freely ? We've not yet encountered a request for a dress for general living, just they like to be Princesses!

OP posts:
C152 · 26/09/2025 12:47

Gosh there's a lot of curtain twitching, 'what will the neighbours think?' going on in some of these answers. DS loves what traditionalists (i.e. sexists) see as 'cute' animals and his favourite colour is pink. He chooses his clothes, lunchboxes etc. Whenever there's a selection and I ask him to pick something, his first choice is always pink. Let children be children.

WFHforevermore · 26/09/2025 12:47

What happened to girls being girls and boys being boys?

Why the fuck does a boy need to dress up as a girl? Cant girls just have their shit these days?

GC5 · 26/09/2025 12:50

TheNewWasp · 26/09/2025 11:59

I am a man and wear pink all the time. I love that colour.
Now, there is no way I would allow my son to be dressed up as Goldilocks or a female character of any kind. That is where I draw a line.
For a portal which is so gender critical I am surprised how laid back the majority of previous posts are about letting this one slide.

You have entirely misunderstood what being gender critical is, then. We believe that anyone can like anything, regardless of sex. That favourite colours or toys or clothes, or characters are nothing to do with sex. It is TRAs who insist that a boy liking pink and skirts means more than him just liking pink and skirts, that it means he is actually and literally a girl. We GCs are actually far more liberal about this stuff than TRAs are. It’s one of our key criticisms of the movement.

OP should leave her kids to like what they like. It doesn’t mean a thing. I think the nursery was simply checking to make sure she is not forcing it on them, because sadly there are some parents who push it on their kids because it makes them (the parents) more “interesting”. It does not sound like the OP is doing that at all. Good for her for not enforcing nonsense stereotypes.

XelaM · 26/09/2025 12:50

It's a bit too much of a coincidence the long hair, the pink accessories, the dresses... 🤔 You're encouraging this and it's weird

youve987456 · 26/09/2025 12:51

LaughingCat · 26/09/2025 11:55

No, you’re not being unreasonable to let them pick so freely…it’s a very different world at school now to the one we attended. But yeah, agree with a pp - sounds like they’re just checking in to see whether you’re consciously steering their choices rather than letting them pick.

Always confuses me when people do that judgement thing though. I hated dolls and pink and ballerinas and dresses when I was a kid - I was a proper tomboy and no-one batted an eyelid. No-one would now at a 5yo girl who was the same. But when a boy wants to wear a dress and wear pink bobbles in their long hair, it’s somehow weird or ‘social suicide’.

How about we just normalise it like we have the other way and stop worrying so much about this shit?

I agree. I think some of the gender confusion is caused by being told you can't do that because you are a boy/girl.

Tealpins · 26/09/2025 12:51

WFHforevermore · 26/09/2025 12:47

What happened to girls being girls and boys being boys?

Why the fuck does a boy need to dress up as a girl? Cant girls just have their shit these days?

Because no colours belong to boys and no toys belongs to girls. In your world, girls can't like trains and boys can't play with dolls? Shall we extend that premise out so that women can't be engineers and men can't be nurses?

Moveoverdarlin · 26/09/2025 12:51

I know it’s not the done thing, but yeah I wouldn’t actively encourage this. I would argue that the wolf is a main character in LRRH - I would say ‘boys don’t wear dresses now you’re big boys and in school, choose a male character like Shrek, Mario, Captain America, Olaf, Spiderman’. And I wouldn’t buy pink hair bands in the first place.

Before starting school I’d let it go, once in school there is more conformity - I don’t let my girls wear pink hairbands, I say navy or hair coloured for school. There a rules in place regardless of gender.

School is the perfect time to perhaps shake off some of these ideas, if you want to, but it sounds like you don’t want to and that’s absolutely fine. But it may throw up some questions that other children and teachers have and it’s just deciding whether it’s a harmless phase or if there is more to it.

Caszekey · 26/09/2025 12:52

SushiForMe · 26/09/2025 12:30

its our job as parents to protect kids from social suicide and to make sure they know they can dress up but can’t ever change their sex. And not to intentionally trans them. It does seem a bit coincidental that both your boys are picking “girl” things so given the society we live in

Completely agree with this. Are you sure you are not going to far with making sure they are not limited to ‘boys’ choices?
For example, when you choose cups/hair bobbled/etc, if most of the time you ask them to choose between pink and another colour, of course they will choose pink fairly often. If you offer a choice between 5 different colours including pink, it might be less. And do you also offer a choice between unisex colours, green/yellow for ex or do you on purpose always include ‘girly’ colours?
Sale for the dressing up: are they watching shows with male leads they could dress up as? No issue with the girls costumes… just a bit odd that it seems to be most of the time.

The pink bottles were simply the cheapest and they get through them slot. If the white or blue or green had been cheaper, they'd have had those. I just didn't NOT buy them because they were pink. My cousin for example wouldn't have even considered the pink.

They live Spidey and Friends, books about all sorts. It's just that they loved those two especially at that point. God knows what they'll be this year's WBD.

OP posts:
FairKoala · 26/09/2025 12:53

DS had long hair. It was waist length and he didn’t want it cut. He still has long hair as an adult
At first glance everyone thought he was a girl but it only took a couple of seconds watching him to realise he was a boy.
I find it strange that your DS’s only watch films and tv where the main characters are female. Lots of films and children’s tv have male lead characters. DS at 5 was into Men in Black, Star Wars, Bob the Buillder and Thomas the Tank Engine. Dd grew up watching these but never wanted to dress in a Black Suit or dungarees.

GarlicPint · 26/09/2025 12:54

WFHforevermore · 26/09/2025 12:47

What happened to girls being girls and boys being boys?

Why the fuck does a boy need to dress up as a girl? Cant girls just have their shit these days?

A girl in a Hulk costume is a girl.
A boy in an Elsa dress is a boy.

A child of either sex in a sparkly dress is not dressing up as a girl. They're dressing up as a princess, probably because they like the sparkles.

TheNewWasp · 26/09/2025 12:54

Caszekey · 26/09/2025 12:30

Why tho? He says Daddy we get to dress up as our favourite book, mine is Little Red Riding Hood!!
You say ok cool, I'll get you a wolf costume.
No Daddy, the wolf is naughty. He gets cut open. He eats people. He's a minor character. Etc. I love Red Riding Hood. She's kind and brave.

And you say... ? Noad, your penis will fall off in a frock?

No, I don't say that.

I say

"Little Red Hiding Hood is a girl.
You are boy.
And sometimes bad men dress up like a woman to do bad things, and we don't want to be like those men, do we?
We are not like the bad wolf who dresses up like a woman to make bad things, aren't we?
I am sure we can find a great boy character for you, maybe the Hunter of the tale, who saves everyone. Or maybe from another tale"

The moment you allow your child to believe it is acceptable to dress like the other gender you risk confusing them about the importance of biological reality.

So better nip this in the bud.

Luxio · 26/09/2025 12:55

The pink bottles were simply the cheapest

So they didn't actually get a choice?

bitterexwife · 26/09/2025 12:56

Other than the long hair, this could have been one of my twin boys, also age 5. His choice is he’d prefer Elsa/Arna dress, unicorn school bottle, frozen pyjamas. I couldn’t care less. He’ll either grow out of it, or he won’t.
I would imagine teacher finds it amusing and cute so asked, I doubt she’s questioning your choices.
Let it go.

Caszekey · 26/09/2025 12:56

XelaM · 26/09/2025 12:50

It's a bit too much of a coincidence the long hair, the pink accessories, the dresses... 🤔 You're encouraging this and it's weird

Hubby has long hair
Eldest refuses to get his cut (because I think girls and boys should be allowed to choose their hair so long as it isn't getting them banned from anywhere!)
Like all the best rock stars.

Long hair is NOT a girl thing in our house.

They went to school today in blue trainers, jeans and dinosaur t-shirts.

OP posts:
Totomanoto · 26/09/2025 12:56

My almost five year old is currently loving gabbys doll house and wants everything gabby, he dressed up as Skye from paw patrol last year for Halloween and went out trick or treating as her, when I asked why he likes Skye he said it’s because she has a helicopter and that’s cool! His favourite colour is purple and he has long hair that we have to tie up for school.
i know he will outgrow all of these things, he’s so little still and we’re just letting him love what he loves, one day he won’t want to play with his polly pocket (because it has sea animals and he loves them) and that’s ok, but whilst he does I’ll let him as it’s not hurting anyone.

Sliceofbattenberg · 26/09/2025 12:57

TheNewWasp · 26/09/2025 12:54

No, I don't say that.

I say

"Little Red Hiding Hood is a girl.
You are boy.
And sometimes bad men dress up like a woman to do bad things, and we don't want to be like those men, do we?
We are not like the bad wolf who dresses up like a woman to make bad things, aren't we?
I am sure we can find a great boy character for you, maybe the Hunter of the tale, who saves everyone. Or maybe from another tale"

The moment you allow your child to believe it is acceptable to dress like the other gender you risk confusing them about the importance of biological reality.

So better nip this in the bud.

Edited

How are trousers or skirts biological reality? In many cultures men wear skirts and women trousers, and this has changed over time.

Boymummy2015 · 26/09/2025 12:57

TheNewWasp · 26/09/2025 12:54

No, I don't say that.

I say

"Little Red Hiding Hood is a girl.
You are boy.
And sometimes bad men dress up like a woman to do bad things, and we don't want to be like those men, do we?
We are not like the bad wolf who dresses up like a woman to make bad things, aren't we?
I am sure we can find a great boy character for you, maybe the Hunter of the tale, who saves everyone. Or maybe from another tale"

The moment you allow your child to believe it is acceptable to dress like the other gender you risk confusing them about the importance of biological reality.

So better nip this in the bud.

Edited

WTAF have I just read!!!
You CANNOT be being serious here?
You have told your child that they are a bad person for dressing up as you deem girly.

WOW!!!! Just fucking WOW!

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 26/09/2025 12:57

you're conflating sex and gender - clothes and toys are just clothes and toys, children remain girls or boys/female or male, however they are dressed and whatever they play with.

ETA - this was meant to quote @TheNewWasp 's interesting contribution:
"No, I don't say that.
I say
Little Red Hiding Hood is a girl.
You are boy.
And sometimes bad men dress up like a woman to do bad things, and we don't want to be like those men, do we?
We are not like the bad wolf who dresses up like a woman to make bad things, aren't we?
I am sure we can find a great boy character for you, maybe the Hunter of the tale, who saves everyone. Or maybe from another tale"
The moment you allow your child to believe it is acceptable to dress like the other gender you risk confusing them about the importance of biological reality.
So better nip this in the bud."

Nearly50omg · 26/09/2025 12:58

It’s only been since the last 50 odd years or so that pink has been seen as a girls colour! It was a boys colour for many years before that

FairKoala · 26/09/2025 12:58

Tealpins · 26/09/2025 12:51

Because no colours belong to boys and no toys belongs to girls. In your world, girls can't like trains and boys can't play with dolls? Shall we extend that premise out so that women can't be engineers and men can't be nurses?

This is about clothes and hair accessories and in the real world men don’t wear dresses and any school dc have been in pink hair bobbles would not be on the uniform list.

I have to tie my hair back when working I would be sent home if I turned up with punk bobbles in my hair. Sometimes you can’t wear what you please you have to conform

lavendermilkshake · 26/09/2025 12:58

So... there are no pink bottles involved? It is just a repeated typo?

GC5 · 26/09/2025 12:59

TheNewWasp · 26/09/2025 12:54

No, I don't say that.

I say

"Little Red Hiding Hood is a girl.
You are boy.
And sometimes bad men dress up like a woman to do bad things, and we don't want to be like those men, do we?
We are not like the bad wolf who dresses up like a woman to make bad things, aren't we?
I am sure we can find a great boy character for you, maybe the Hunter of the tale, who saves everyone. Or maybe from another tale"

The moment you allow your child to believe it is acceptable to dress like the other gender you risk confusing them about the importance of biological reality.

So better nip this in the bud.

Edited

Nonsense. Teaching them that what they like is nothing to do with sex, because sex is biological and immutable and anyone can like anything, is a far better way to approach this. Otherwise you risk making them believe that simply by liking “girly things” they are in fact girls.

You are obviously late to the GC party, if you don’t realise that gender stereotypes are a key issue we have been pushing against for the last 40 years or so.

GiantTeddyIsTired · 26/09/2025 12:59

XelaM · 26/09/2025 12:50

It's a bit too much of a coincidence the long hair, the pink accessories, the dresses... 🤔 You're encouraging this and it's weird

When mine was about 3 he was invited to a 'Pirates and Princesses' birthday party for one of his class mates.

He went in his (chosen on amazon himself) pink tutu and fairy wings, despite having an extensive play sword collection and a pirate costume being totally possible if he wanted it.

There were girls there in full on pirate gear too. Although I will say he was the only boy who'd taken the princess route.

She's not 'encouraging' she's just not 'discouraging' - supporting a child's harmless interests is totally fine.

brightgreenpepper · 26/09/2025 13:00

Can you imagine a teacher questioning a parent about a five year old girl who had short hair, a blue water bottle and came to WBD as Harry Potter?

The double standards over this are infuriating - it's just another way the patriarchy shows up IMO. No big problem for a girl to prefer "masculine" things because "masculine" things are normal right and proper but a boy interested in "feminine" things is associating himself with something that is seen as inferior and wrong.

seaelephant · 26/09/2025 13:01

Christ alive this entire thread is a mess of gender-essentialist nonsense. Boys choosing pink makes you a woke/crunchy/try-hard mum? You'll make them trans???!! Do people hear themselves! absolute drivel. Wee boys love pink and princesses and barbies and dresses - and why shouldn't they, that stuff is cool! Incidentally, my partner's fave colour is pink - he wears it all the time and has a pink gaming chair, a pink phone case and a pink backpack (and is also very manly and masculine at the same time)