Tried three places for lunch today and none cater for women

[Mrsmunchofmunchington]

I went out for lunch today with a friend.
Well, at least we tried to have lunch.
All three places, two pubs and one cafe, were not suitable for women because you needed a penis to get into them or to use the toilet.
We ended up coming back to my home instead.

AIBU to think that everywhere should offer equal service to women?
Or is it my fault for not checking in advance that I could eat there without a penis?
Should I have researched on tripadvisor?
Am I too entitled expecting businesses to ensure non penis having people can pay to eat lunch at their establishment?

Day in the life of a disabled person.

Your posts are incoherent and incomprehensible, that’s why vast majority don’t understand what convoluted point you’re making

It’s not just the toilet that need to be accessible

This was probably the wrong website to use that analogy on... in the context of this place I thought it was some sort of complaint about unisex loos as there are some posters who obssess about that kind of thing.

I'm sorry you had such a rubbish experience and that access is so lousy for people with disabilities.

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Exactly.

Or like pp has brought up too, you have to be so careful booking accessible rooms because they might claim it's accessible because they have a grab rail in the bathroom which is completely useless if it has a step in shower or a few steps down to the hotel room in the first place.

Not to mention the fact that accessible rooms are usually more expensive too.

I don’t understand. Do you realise that men have disabilities too? So by your post, would you agree that men also would not have made it to the lunch?

It was very clear to me. It's also clear why you posted it. Women would be appalled at being excluded from 3 places. Not so many people care about the exclusion of disabled people.

The OP is not actually making a point about men - she is making the point that as someone who is disabled without a certain body part (in this case legs) she hasn't been able to go somewhere for lunch.

She is using men and women as the point that if several places wouldn't cater for women because they didn't have a certain body part (penis) then there would be uproar.

I doubt anyone cares what you have in your pants. Cool story anyway babe.

Too confusing...just say what you want to say not make it too confusing with your mixed messages.

Re disabled toilets...I never forgot taking my mum to them and seeing the two steps down to the disabled toilets...mum had to get out of the wheelchair and go on to her bottom to get to the toilet. Disabled access is awful. Don't get me on disabled parking ...so many are on hills...I remember helping mum out of the car to see the chair still with brakes on sliding down the hill...in that case another member of the public rushed to help me and rescue the chair. When I finally got mum Into the chair safely I then had the biggest step ever to get from the disabled parking into the shopping center. I put mum safe and returned to get the bag...I was juggling mum and the chair the car door and my keys and handbag...to find a member of public standing behind me when I reached into the car to get the bag to say you are not disabled...I pointed at mum, shut the car door and tbh was so worn out at that point mum and I just went for a coffee then back home. However we got out which was a huge step....was a few weeks until I attempted it again...it gets easier...

Clear as mud actually. To quote a mumsnet classic are you on glue ?

Did you have a liquid lunch?

That is really rubbish OP, you absolutely shouldn't have to call ahead either.

But it’s a stupid analogy because so many old buildings can’t be adapted for wheelchair access at all, and others without massive funding which simply isn’t available.
It’s not as simple as refusing entry based on favouritism.

I don't think favouritism is a good use of word to describe the discrimination people with disabilities face every day.

I haven't read the full thread, but how would the restaurant know you don't have a penis? Were they inspecting patrons at the door? Couldn't you just lie, say you are a M-to-F pre-op transperson.

Lots of people need to call ahead, for all sorts of reasons, there’s no shouldn’t about it.

How odd that so many posters fail to understand your point. I thought your final sentence made it very clear. It must be very frustrating.
OP has clarified that none of the places in question were listed buildings.

Look, you have my sympathy and as a stick user myself, I do find some toilets difficult. But if I wanted a cryptic conundrum, I'd do the Guardian crossword. If you'd simply said 'There were no accessible toilets in these venues...' and got straight to the point, this post would have had a bigger impact.

Neither do I, so I didn’t
That’s what op’s ridiculous analogy suggested.

People are being surprisingly thick today. I thought your OP was clear and impactful!

Oh, I've just read some of the posts. Excuse me for not understanding, give me the pointy hat and I'll go stand in the corner.

It really didn't - it was suggesting she was being discriminated against for being a woman.

The point OP is making is that people seem to find it acceptable when it comes to discriminating against disabled people and just one of those things - she is absolutely right that it shouldn't be, the same way it would not be okay if there were multiple food places saying only people with penis' were allowed in to eat or that women might be allowed in but they weren't going to be able to use the toilet as it was only designed for men.

I personally thought the analogy was thought provoking.

I get it because I am also a wheelchair user.

If only this were true. So many places have become inaccessible to me since I became a wheelchair user. It’s not just old buildings ; shops (and houses) have steps, doors which can’t be opened from a wheelchair, narrow aisles not wide enough for my chair, tables I can’t sit at… It’s difficult to appreciate unless you experience it as or with a wheelchair user.