Tried three places for lunch today and none cater for women

[Mrsmunchofmunchington]

I went out for lunch today with a friend.
Well, at least we tried to have lunch.
All three places, two pubs and one cafe, were not suitable for women because you needed a penis to get into them or to use the toilet.
We ended up coming back to my home instead.

AIBU to think that everywhere should offer equal service to women?
Or is it my fault for not checking in advance that I could eat there without a penis?
Should I have researched on tripadvisor?
Am I too entitled expecting businesses to ensure non penis having people can pay to eat lunch at their establishment?

Day in the life of a disabled person.

As someone with 15+ years of working with the disabled community I don’t think I am being remotely harsh. There are a huge number of businesses that could do a hell of a lot more to make their businesses accessible. But until they are forced to or find themselves in the situation they don’t bother. There are plenty of things that can be done for far cheaper than the figure you quote. But it often takes some out of the box thinking and an open mind to work through the challenges.

I have not said anything to the contrary.

Sounds like you infer that everyone with a penis is disabled.
Ok it's obviously a weakness but not a disability.

Sorry, thought you were describing being on holiday as a woman in the Middle East. My bad.

Never in my life heard of a place only offering for men?

The op was convoluted and obtuse. Purposefully so. Waffle about penises,men,and exclusion We were expected to guess the nuances and actual message.

Not true - the OP hasn't mentioned toilets at all.

Often it's a couple of steps up, no one can remember where the last manager put the ramp, th doors won't open wid enough for a wheelchair, there's a step between the entrance and the tables, they've crammed so many tables I to a small spac you can't manoeuvre a wheelchair through it, the stools are bolted to the floor so you can't remove one to roll up to tt table or it's counter service and no way to carry your tray with a wheelchair or crutches, or the seats are bar stools you can't get to from your wheelchair etc etc ad nauseum.

Not Accessible is rarely about a toilet.

Clear enough? Clear as mud. But yes, terrible that there was no provision for disabled access.

But it made you read it! When lots wouldn’t have bothered if it had been clear from the start. Whether you like it or not it the truth. Therefore it has indeed worked.

No. Content remains gibberish. Would have been better to just say in OP what issue is. As opposed to a convoluted reveal and subsequent explanation and attempts at justification @sosorryimnotsorry

Is that intellectually disabled? ….because your post was not clear - it was all over the place.

Very strange. The only places I have ever been that are awkward for disabled people - I wouldn’t even say necessarily inaccessible - are buildings that are hundreds of years old. Any modern establishment - certainly if built within the last 50 years - is wheelchair accessible, if that’s what you mean?

Wetherspoons have changed the whole pub culture. Women are welcome, no bother. I know older ladies who meet up for lunch. You don't have to buy alcoholic drinks. I now and then have a traditional breakfast and unlimited tea/coffee for less than £7

I’m pretty desperate and read anything. It didn’t need to draw me in.

No, it wasn’t a magic bullet to ensure everyone read it. People read and respond to all sorts of guff on here!

lol best description mn ever

It would seem not. Generally most don't actually even think of disabled people.

Yes my gran and her gaggle of ladies likes spoons

Yep, the "you are unreasonable for expecting parity" types are alive and kicking.

Missing the point entirely.

Wow, @Mrsmunchofmunchington you have wildly overestimated that we would immediately think ah yes this isn’t about men but disabled access. This is a cunning poster indeed.

I’m really sorry you’ve had a shit day and the access you needed wasn’t in place; I agree in an ideal world you wouldn’t have to phone ahead. But we live in a country where there are a lot of things that still need to be put right. Calling ahead would have been the way to go to ensure you could get inside to eat.

I really hope the Deputy Prime Minister doesn't read this! 🦖

OP, I found it confusing because there are plenty of venues in the world where you'd be denied entry for being female and on the internet no one knows where you're located. YANBU to point out the problem of lack of accessibility (and lack of transparency where there is insufficient accessibility).

It took me a bit to twig but once I got it I realised YANBU.

I haven’t RTFT and I’m sorry you had access problems.

But I don’t think your analogy quite works.

Women are half the population and there would be no justifiable reason to deny them access.
People who use wheelchairs, on the other hand, while of course having the same rights as everyone else, have a unique set of needs that can’t always be catered for, especially in old buildings.

Are you suggesting old buildings should never be used as cafes or restaurants? Or that everyone not accessible should be knocked down and rebuilt?

If I went into my local town I would find many old buildings that could not cater for disabled access. It’s often not their fault.

I'm so confused too
I didn't even know there's restaurants cafes around where just men are permitted ✨🤔🙏

Because many, many buildings that are not new were built in such a way that it’s impossible to add a disabled toilet, or their only facilities are upstairs. I can’t do stairs as my knees are knackered. If I were going somewhere new, I would check in advance the stair situation to avoid a futile journey. Similarly, my DH would check the menu for food he can eat - he’s a very fussy eater, coeliacs might check, vegans etc.
What do you suggest for such establishments?