Farage promises to deport people with ILR

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Nigel Farage stated he would deport anyone with existing indefinite leave to remain. We are talking about millions of people.
This terrifying. If people live here, work here, have kids and mortgages - where are they supposed to go?

Brexit failed because no party wanted it to happen really and messed it up!

What makes you think the British public aren't daft? And what is the evidence to support this?

It's because of Brexit.

HTH.

Brexit failed because it was a shit idea.

No competent person wanted it to happen, and nobody who wanted it to happen is competent.

Because it was a shit idea.

I don’t think many have 60k?
Again though, what is unskilled, how is a useful contribution measured?
A prison officer (there’s a huge shortage) earns around 30k I think. They may not be net contributors ( although if they were educated and had healthcare in another country for their entire childhood that’s a huge saving for the uk already). But they are needed.
A bin man, a bus driver, a nurse, a teacher. None on 60k. But we need them, don’t we??
A senior marketing consultant might be on £££, pay lots of tax and feel very important but what value do they actually add to the country?

Hahahaha. Yes, we'll never have True Brexit. File along with Communism.

Ah you're one of those who thinks we could have left the EU retaining all our rights but none of the responsibilities...

We had Boris - one of the principal cheerleaders for Brexit - in charge of negotiating our exit deal.

It didn't work because it was a terrible idea from the outset. It wasn't ever going to work.

So she didn’t do anything illegal?

The government and media reports on this refer to them as hotels. Some are hotels with a 4* rating. The ratings are only updated every 1-5 years so are unlikely to have changed.

The buildings haven’t changed.
The facilities haven’t changed.
The bedding (mentioned upthread) hasn’t changed (unless they’ve bought in brand new for the asylum seekers - there are reports of new beds and tv equipment so maybe?)
The staffing hasn’t changed (unless you’re suggesting there has been mass redundancies of hotel staff which is entirely possible as the media often refuse to report these stories).

Just because they are not serving afternoon tea on the terrace doesn’t mean they are not in some hotels that were sold as 4* right up until the moment they were closed and have the vast majority of facilities and standard of accommodation and their ratings in place.

Some PPs are even trying to claim that no asylum seekers are in hotels in the grounds that due to planning laws they are now officially classed as asylum seeker accommodation. It is an utterly dishonest argument that shows how kneejerk and tabloid level your reactions are.

They would have if they could buy a big detached house I’m sure! But wait, oh that’s right, housing here is so expensive that a one bedroom flat to rent would be the limit here….

"That's not my Brexit, it's too crappy and useless!"

Brexit knocked 4-6% off GDP.
I cant believe anyone still believes in Brexit.

I watched it too. The clear line was, ILR gone, citizenship or guest worker visa. Benefits not claimed by guest workers.

These nuances being discussed here as to the EU or current ILR. Farage was very clear on why ILR had to go. It was the payment of benefits. Those are for British people only, which he made very clear when he questioned why a pensioner with ILR should get a pension.

This is about British or not British. If you are not British you will have the status of a guest that can be removed at any time. You will not have a human rights claim. You will not be able to use public services without paying or making extra contribution.

Who would, a few years in to this policy, fancy having ILR as an EU citizen? It depends whether you think Farage and Reform respect the EU and the TCA and that they wouldn’t put limits on what EU citizens could have in the UK.

They don't. They're just too proud to admit that they got it wrong.

No, it wasn’t done properly that’s the problem!

Which bit wasnt done 'properly'?

What does "properly" look like to you, out of (sincere) interest?

If it had been done properly the UK would be even more in the shit!

Because it was a shit idea.

So the more Brexity the Brexit, the more shit the UK finds itself in.

What would "properly" have looked like, exactly?

I don’t disagree with some of this tbf

This.

Imagine living in a county where people are falling over themselves to get here and yet we’re all daft…. Those wanting to get here must also be daft too? No?

That doesn't answer my question.

I suspect they don't realise until they get to the UK that it's not all it's cracked up to be.