Very strange situation

[gunnermartin]

Just had a call from a friend, who was distraught after a phone call she’d had from a mum from school. (She’s given me permission to post as we are both baffled).

Last night her daughter had a friend over (they’re 10). She was making burgers for dinner and the friends daughter came in saw what she was making and said she didn’t like them can she have a bowl of super noodles instead. Friend offered her alternatives but she said no she wanted noodles. So she made her two packets of them.

Anyway this morning she’s had a call off the other girls mum saying the child went home saying she was starving- the mum asked if she’d eaten dinner and the child said my friend had made her own two children burgers but told the friend who had come round quite aggressively apparently that there wasn’t enough for her so she would have noodles as only her own children were allowed burgers.

Thankfully my friend has an all day ring doorbell inside to watch her dogs in the kitchen, which also records conversations so she had the full dialogue on film, which she downloaded and sent over to the other child’s mother after the call!

Friend is saying she doesn’t want the child in her house anymore and feels bad for her child as they are friends but I’ve also told her I wouldn’t want her in there either!

This mum is obviously not all there and the child is a compulsive liar for attention due to this. End that whole thing. Thank goodness it wasn't a worse lie.

Does everyone have instant noodles in these days?

They're an essential emergency staple back up in this house

I bought some just the other day! Hubby's lunch when he can't be bothered to make a proper meal!

I would be horrified if my child was so rude! You don’t go round peoples houses demanding particular food!

I think if she really didn't like burgers & wouldn't eat them she was right to say something.

Surely the alternative should have been offered by Op though?

I did something similar when I was 7. I went to a friend’s house to play.

I told her parents that she copies me in school and sometimes bullies me (she didn’t copy me, she did tease me once or twice but nothing more than childish spats). Her dad hit her. 🙈 I still remember it. I was such a horrible child for doing that and feel so guilty about it even now. I’d be mortified if my kids did that.

Absolutely no need to have cameras in your own home ( or even outside)

I’m so glad I grew up in a house where my movements and voice were not recorded. You’d get more privacy in prison.

Please stop recording kids in their own home.

I think the filming is weird esp as it recorded the words of a conversation. I don’t see why sound would be needed.

Re the lying, I guess 10 yos do lie. She probably did it to explain why she was hungry when she got in and didn’t want to explain she’d eaten super noodles.

Tbh I think all this reflects quite badly on the girl’s Mum- that her dd would need to lie to her to get extra food, and that she would call the play date Mum all guns blazing.

You weren’t the one most in the wrong here though. The Dad was.

He alone was responsible for his decision to assault a child.

Poor your friend but the Dad - an adult - was the most in the wrong.

I don’t know what got into your head to lie but I do know that children do really odd things sometimes. Often for attention or for want of anything to say!

Eh - it happens. My mum used to make me hang out with this girl in high school (I think she was a bit scared of the girl's mum). On her 12th birthday, she lost a tenner of her birthday money - her mum went spare. I gave her a tenner of my own money (an absolute bloody fortune back in 1995) and she told her mum that I'd stolen it, and that she'd found it in my overnight bag. Her mum rang my mum, calling me a thief and I caught merry hell for it, despite telling my mum what actually happened. Some kids just lie. She might be like that girl - wanted to eat what she wasn't allowed at home but then couldn't admit to it because she's scared of her mum. So figured it was a victimless crime to blame the other mum, and she still gets food. Whatever the reason behind the lying is, I wouldn't want the girl back in my home either because it usually points to some pretty unhealthy family dynamics and drama behind the scenes. Thank god for the internal camera!

Anyone saying cameras are weird are actually weird themselves. I’m sure you’ve all got Ring doorbells. Are they weird too? Dashcams? CCTV?

I have cameras in the house in case we are burgled. My neighbour was burgled and wished he’d had cameras hence the reason we got them

I agree, and it is showing only one small snippet of the whole evening. Maybe if your friend looked through hours and hours of footage from the camera she might even find occasions where her own children lie. After all we are brought up on lies aren't we. Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, no wars to worry about etc etc.

It’s quite common for people to have cameras nowadays for security or pets. Are you new to the 2020’s?

This.
And why is so weird to have a Ring camera set up to watch the dogs in the kitchen? It doesn’t mean the householder is going to share random footage with just anyone……..although in this case they did catch the child out as being a liar!

No one I know has ever mentioned having cameras in their home. Security lights, Ring door bells or CCTV outside, alarms set at night or when out of the house - all of those, but no....I don't know anyone recording vision and sound in their kitchen, and why would you turn it on when you are present?

I'm pretty sure you're on rocky ground if you say record a dinner party w/o letting your guests know.

Yes I agree.

The main issue here is not the recording. It’s the child lying. Mine would have been in massive trouble if they’d been offered a meal, said they didn’t like that, been given something they said they preferred, and then lied, claiming that the parent denied them the main meal.

OP, I hope that your friend has received an apology.

Everyone in this situation sounds deranged, apart from the kid who was just lying to get out of trouble

OMG no you don’t! Most people in the UK don’t have internal cameras in their homes, therefore why is it you should check???
Wow I just bet you’re fun at parties eh? 🤣🤣🤣

Here’s what probably happened:

Friend goes home and her mum asks what she had for dinner. She tells her mum two packets of noodles (which isn’t the healthiest)
Mum gets mad and asks why she ate such rubbish for dinner. Friend panics and doesn’t want to be told off so lies and says she was told she couldn’t have chicken burgers.

It’s all a mountain out of a mole hill. The evidence to show what really happened was shown to prove the facts. Your friend needs to forget about it and move on. She doesn’t need to deal with this other parent again.

It’s not a case of ‘turning it on when present’ in my house - it’s just ‘on’

I’ve got enough to think about when I leave the house already, I don’t want to add something else to remember.

it kicks in when motion is detected. I can’t say I’ve ever thought to scroll back through footage.
actually, tell a lie….i came home to a loaf of bread gone and the wrapper in the dog bed, so checked through then to see how he’d gotten hold of it.
that’s as far as my surveillance goes though.

I wouldn’t want the little fibber in my home either. It’s not normal or ok behaviour to lie like that at the age of 10. She knows it’s wrong and she was purposely trying to make the mum look like a bad person. What will she make up next?
Lots of people have inside cameras nowadays, I had one for years so I could make sure my dog was alright when I wasn’t there. It recorded because I had a household recording plan for my outside cameras.

Does it record sound?

Noddle 😅😅😅

Yeah. It’s basically an indoor ring camera.

saying that though, it wouldn’t have picked up the situation in the op, as it’s positioned behind the door, so wouldn’t have detected anything with the door open.