Teacher conduct - clapping at DS

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DS 13 got sent out of class today for talking to another student (friend) and not paying attention when he should have been.
He got a warning first.
He talked again to the same student a second time about 10 minutes later.
For this, he got sent out of the room to go in to isolation for the rest of the school day, followed by an hour after school detention.

As he got his stuff together and walked out of the room, the teacher started clapping at him. He said to DS "Well done you just got yourself an isolation and a detention" then clapped with his hands raised up above his head and carried on clapping at DS as he walked through the room and out of the door. Whilst the teacher was clapping, the other students joined in and started clapping too, and the teacher allowed this and carried on himself.

I've had dialogue with the school to confirm that DS was talking and to check whether he was doing anything more than this, and the teacher has confirmed that he was punished for talking when he should have been listening to the teacher, on 2 separate occasions in the lesson. Nothing more.

I accept that talking when he shouldn't have been talking and that this has received a punishment of being sent out, sent to isolation and given a 1 hour detention. But I've got a really big issue with the clapping. DS accepts he shouldn't have been talking and has aplogised about this and seems regretful for his actions. But he says the clapping from the teacher and other students whilst he walked through them all to leave the room made him feel humiliated and I've taken issue with this.

AIBU?

Bring him up with better manners then. He shouldn't have been talking, was told to stop and rudely ignored it. Embarrassed? Yes, he should be. Being embarrassed in front of his peers will make sure he thinks twice before disrespecting his teacher again.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

It was completely not okay what the teacher did, but if this was my son, I would be telling him that if he was doing the right thing that it wouldn’t have happened. I definitely wouldn’t be contacting school about it.

Agree

I feel sorry for the teacher

Awful. Poor lad. Unnecessary and over the top.

You should be showing your son that the teacher is the person in authority and the school is there to pay attention and learn, not to undermine the teacher who is working so hard to do their job. Lots of teachers are sick of parents whose teenage babies 'can do no wrong'.

That sounds really really unpleasant behaviour from the teacher. Schools seem to be really difficult at the moment.

Maybe he will learn a bit of respect. Even if he doesn't want to learn, others do.

Exactly. Feel so sorry for teachers.
I absolutely hope by time my dc go to school, this narcissistic, 'I am entitled to be rude/aggressive and should be lauded for being so, how dare any teacher not worship me! They need to know their place, plebs!!'
has died out, and pupils are aware they should be acting with some respect and politeness

Nothing more.
The ‘Nothing more’ about your son twice disturbing the learning of up to 31 other students is very telling.

Your son was out of order. He got reprimanded. If he had behaved in the first place, this would not have happened. I agree with someone else that said he is trying to deflect. The issue is with your child, not the school.

IME - and I’ve worked in many schools - the teachers behaviour sounds like your son has a history of pushing boundaries.

Really? Was a pretty common sort of classroom occurrence when I was at school. But kids then were taught to just brush this sort of stuff off as heat of the moment classroom give and take rather than labelling it a humiliating attack on their sense of personhood that will require £10k worth of counselling in their 20s.

Its not nice behaviour from the teacher but will more than likely have more of an effect than the detention.

Maybe the teacher and other children are fed up with having lessons disrupted by your little angel

The teacher and other students obviously didn't give a shit about disruption when they wasted time with all that clapping.

There is WAY more to this. That's not that kid's first time. Tell him to behave.

"likely the teacher is totally fed up, or just isn't a nice person".

Why is he in the profession then? Get a job in a brush handle factory if you can't handle working with children.

The OP's son was correctly given the detention. The OP's son should have more respect for rules and figures of authority.

However, an adult working in a professional setting encouraging ridicule isn't the standard of behaviour to be expected.

If the OP's son had been bullying another child or been rude to a member of staff, I'd feel less sympathy. But that's not the case.

This sounds like football coach-banter type behaviour. Some staff members need to realise that they aren't dealing with adults. Be strict, assert rules but don't encourage humiliation. If you wouldn't treat your own child like that, don't do it to someone else's.

It's parents like you that constantly excuse bad behaviour why teachers are leaving in droves.

This teacher sounds unhinged and he is taking his shit out on the kids. Sadly there are a lot of them about. I'd report this to the head I HATE teachers on power trips trying to humiliate kids.

He's shy. Hates having attention on him. Would rather go under the radar un-noticed than draw any attention to himself.

How does this match disrupting the class repeatedly?

An I see, so bad behaviour from professional adults should be excused but any misbehaviour from children should not only be punished by detention and isolation but humiliation as well.

I’ve not read the whole thread but you are focusing on the wrong thing here. Focus on the behaviour of your kid.

I wonder how you would feel if your child was complaining the teacher didnt finish the lesson due to time dealing with constant interruptions and having to issue consequences for bad behaviour if every kid just decided to ignore the rules....

I disagree, working with bullies is what puts me off teaching. That teacher sound like a massive bully.

Exactly. In 28 years of teaching I’ve had students removed twice. One had a butcher’s knife in his bag and the other was shouting racial abuse at a visitor out of the window. Be grateful your son goes to a school where disruption isn’t tolerated, or send him to a private school and see how long they put up with it. I’m a mother and if my DC had been sent to isolation I’d be mortified, not thinking of excuses.