Teacher conduct - clapping at DS

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DS 13 got sent out of class today for talking to another student (friend) and not paying attention when he should have been.
He got a warning first.
He talked again to the same student a second time about 10 minutes later.
For this, he got sent out of the room to go in to isolation for the rest of the school day, followed by an hour after school detention.

As he got his stuff together and walked out of the room, the teacher started clapping at him. He said to DS "Well done you just got yourself an isolation and a detention" then clapped with his hands raised up above his head and carried on clapping at DS as he walked through the room and out of the door. Whilst the teacher was clapping, the other students joined in and started clapping too, and the teacher allowed this and carried on himself.

I've had dialogue with the school to confirm that DS was talking and to check whether he was doing anything more than this, and the teacher has confirmed that he was punished for talking when he should have been listening to the teacher, on 2 separate occasions in the lesson. Nothing more.

I accept that talking when he shouldn't have been talking and that this has received a punishment of being sent out, sent to isolation and given a 1 hour detention. But I've got a really big issue with the clapping. DS accepts he shouldn't have been talking and has aplogised about this and seems regretful for his actions. But he says the clapping from the teacher and other students whilst he walked through them all to leave the room made him feel humiliated and I've taken issue with this.

AIBU?

So frustrating when you have to do other adults’ reading for them isn’t it. You’re doing a great job 👏 (non sarcastic clapping)

But why read the OP’s posts when you can invent your own narrative and give her a good kicking? Because that’s a lot more fun. 🙄

This is all that really needed to be said on this thread.

Agreed, also requires they have reading comprehension skills.

Baffled at the number of posters who wouldn't be able to cope with handling two matters at once.

Maybe if they had better teachers.....

Absolutely agree, if you hadn’t read the OP’s first post and used basic reading comprehension skills. And then if you hadn’t read anyone else’s opinion, including thoughtful responses from teachers, or OP’s further posts. Also if you didn’t have any basic understanding of how this type of humiliation isn’t even close to appropriate or constructive disciplinary management and techniques.

@Megifer Me too. However with limited promotion prospects I’m guessing the teacher won’t have much going out every month on the student loan. He’s 24. Neither does he owe the whole sum. He’s taxed on his earnings.

Holy shit! Just saw this update.. I've worked along side many "young" teachers over the years (I used to be one a million years ago) & none of them behaved like this, if anything they brought an energy & new focus, I know how wanky that sounds 🙈This chap maybe isn't suited to teaching which is detrimental to the OP's & other students

Teacher sounds like a knobhead.

Unfortunately you’ll get a bunch of the ‘world’s best parents’ on here telling you it’s all your fault and a product of your awful parenting and their kids would never have misbehaved etc etc… 🥱

Like being cross at him?
Like supporting the school with his consequences of detention and isolation?

Check and check.

None of this behaviour is appropriate- and if it is indeed true I doubt he will be teaching for long.
Your son should have stopped talking the first time he was told to stop.

That'll teach him.

Of how some people in life, and in positions of power, can be complete twats? Yes, it will. Thankfully, he won’t be on mumsnet, so he just has to deal with the one at his school.

I’m so surprised how many comments imply the lad must be lying - as a school nurse visiting several secondary schools in my local area I have heard many a teacher talk to teens in a sarcastic and negative tone and this situation sadly does not surprise me at all. It’s interesting this teacher was trying to correct undesirable behaviour and teach him to respect others by doing the complete opposite. The lad took his punishment, there was no reason to humiliate him what so ever!

It’s sad, but perhaps worse are all the people that believe him but are cheering on the teacher. Thankfully, there are plenty of nice teachers on here, plus people like you, that are pointing out how it’s not the way to go about it.

In the past, I think there might’ve been some people that would have said it was OK, and while I greatly disagree, it might’ve been a somewhat respectful discussion about discipline methods. But what’s got really horrible is how many people are here to get off on a quick insult of the OP and her son and then run away again. It puts me off being here now, like ‘you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas…’ no offense to dogs!

@Purplepenguin2024 in your career then, you've never, ever seen teens be rude, disrespectful, arrogant, happy to disrupt others education?
Only ever big bad teachers being awful to poor angel pupils..?

Of course she’ll have seen those things, why is that relevant to her point?

Because she only mentioned teachers and what she sees as their failings? Not what caused the teachers reaction?

Unacceptable from the teacher. But maybe he was totally fed up with having his lesson disrupted twice by your son

Why not?

Because she was specifically talking about why the teacher’s reaction was inappropriate for the behaviour that had already been punished according to the school’s own guidelines. She was explaining why she can believe that the teacher did that. Nowhere did she imply that students don’t have bad behaviour, that would be crazy.

Staggering that you can’t see that your child’s brattish behaviour is the issue here.

There's many who can't sadly!

He talked in a lesson. That is NOT brattish behaviour. It is totally normal human behaviour.

All those calling the lad names have you never whispered to a colleague next to you during a meeting?

It is a very poor teacher who can’t deal with some teens chatting when changing activity without going so over board. Sent out of the room, detention, isolation and the clapping. That is not the way to ensure good classroom/ gym behaviour.

@JamesWebbSpaceTelescope So you'd be happy in work for someone to disrupt you, talk over you, be a twat and be disrespectful?