Teacher conduct - clapping at DS

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DS 13 got sent out of class today for talking to another student (friend) and not paying attention when he should have been.
He got a warning first.
He talked again to the same student a second time about 10 minutes later.
For this, he got sent out of the room to go in to isolation for the rest of the school day, followed by an hour after school detention.

As he got his stuff together and walked out of the room, the teacher started clapping at him. He said to DS "Well done you just got yourself an isolation and a detention" then clapped with his hands raised up above his head and carried on clapping at DS as he walked through the room and out of the door. Whilst the teacher was clapping, the other students joined in and started clapping too, and the teacher allowed this and carried on himself.

I've had dialogue with the school to confirm that DS was talking and to check whether he was doing anything more than this, and the teacher has confirmed that he was punished for talking when he should have been listening to the teacher, on 2 separate occasions in the lesson. Nothing more.

I accept that talking when he shouldn't have been talking and that this has received a punishment of being sent out, sent to isolation and given a 1 hour detention. But I've got a really big issue with the clapping. DS accepts he shouldn't have been talking and has aplogised about this and seems regretful for his actions. But he says the clapping from the teacher and other students whilst he walked through them all to leave the room made him feel humiliated and I've taken issue with this.

AIBU?

Why are posters repeatedly saying that the OP doesn't see that her DS did anything wrong?? She has repeatedly said that his behaviour was unacceptable and supports the sanctions. It's just the clapping that she’s objecting to.

I dont even know why the kids height would be relevant anyway. Vertically challenged teachers can still be very shit at their jobs.

Not sure what puruing and perscuring mean but there is nothing wrong with OP reporting this to the school. Then it is out of her hands. It is entirely up to management to deal with. If management think he has done nothing wrong, he won't be sanctioned. We shall see!

So now you agree that this teacher is unprofessional! That's progress! Still haven't grasped that the teacher is male though! The first thing OP did was check with the teacher what exactly her DS's behaviour was which tallied with his own explanation.

Well, he is,,, teachers don’t pick on the quiet well behaved kids out of no where.

it was either worse than you think, or it’s because he’s a habitual offender and this time the teacher took a stand.

either way, now he knows where the line is - time to move on.

He can know where the line is and, separately, op can raise the teachers concerning behaviour to the school.

Some teachers (bullies) do actually pick on innocent children. There are idiots in every industry

A bit like in the days of having the board duster thrown? Was that OK?
Parents can support discipline but there's no need for humiliation

I think the clapping was OTT and quite frankly a bit weird. The teacher acted like a bully, roping the other kids in his strange little drama. What he said is ok, ‘you’ve earned a detention for talking’. The clapping and jeering is bang out of order unless your child is a repeat offender and a cheeky back chatting little sod in which case I’d say let it go (but you say he isn’t). There was no need for the humiliation.

Why can't you read OP's posts, if nothing else? Op has confirmed that her DS has never had a sanction from any teachers in the 2 years he has been at that school.

I can read - doesn’t make it true. There has to be a first sanction, and this was it. I would bet anyone Lunch that if they were the one excluded for knowingly doing something twice, having been asked already they totally should have expected it.

please don’t tell me you think a child should get no sanction for talking in class, being asked not to, then doing it again so much that it required exclusion from the class.

Like it or not, teachers exclude for continual disruptive behaviour.

She can be ‘that parent’ yes. The one who complains about her dispruotive child being removed from class. 🤷

She's not complaining about that though.

Another thread where literacy and comprehension are severely lacking.
So tedious for the OP.

Yes exactly, I’ve been thinking this all along. Posters are saying that the boy will learn that his mum will always side with him not the teacher blah blah. Rubbish. She can fully enforce the proper sanction that the school imposed, and which OP has made clear all along she supports, while separately, and even without her son even knowing she is doing it, complain about the humiliation.

I cannot believe how many posters are supportive of this humiliation tactic, it’s shameful.

I think you’re doing the right thing OP, for other kids too. I hope your son is feeling better.

Please just read the posts properly. Please. It’s excruciating.

No one is saying he shouldn't have been excluded from the class. Not the mum not the child . This is about the clapping. It's even in the title!

It's really interesting how many people think this was reasonable. It would be at least a "professional advice" situation in every school I've worked in.

I’ve already answered this. You’ve said the same thing twice?

I know!! Its really cringe 🤣

Interestingly some of those people seem to be enjoying it as well. It’s not nice.

Teach him to behave. I wouldn’t want to be a teacher now.

This whole thread should be required reading on teacher training courses, so would-be teachers understand what they are up against before they invest time and money getting qualified.

It’s miraculous that there are any left at all when this is what they are facing.

I don’t think you being a teacher would be a great idea either.