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I will be spending Christmas alone and my children do not care

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Brazien · 15/09/2025 23:34

Hello,

I have 3 adult children, my eldest DD is 31, she is married and has a gorgeous little boy who is 11 months old. They spent last Christmas with me and DD already made it clear they would be doing one Christmas with us and another with her husbands family which is obviously totally fine and understandable. My next child is my DS who is 27 and then my youngest DS who is 25.

I would say I generally have a very positive relationship with all of my children, we talk relatively frequently and haven’t until now had a large falling out, they haven’t ever raised any issues with me in terms of our relationship and have historically initiated and planned visits. I am divorced and have been for many years, I have no close relatives as both of my parents have passed away and my only brother lives in Australia.

I absolutely love hosting Christmas, it is the highlight of my year. When my children’s father and I divorced we actually agreed he would get Boxing Day and New Years Eve (our children were still small when I got divorced) in exchange for me getting Christmas as it matters so much to me. I have hosted Christmas every year since I got married at 23, I never complain about hosting or resent doing this, like I said it’s the highlight of my year. As my children have grown it has of course meant some years I’ve had all of them home and others just one but never have they left me alone for Christmas and I’d actually say they have instead made quite a bit of effort between themselves to ensure someone is always around to spend Christmas with me.

Tonight I was added to a group text message chat, it included myself, both of my DS and their respective partners. DS1 has been with his girlfriend for about a year and a half, DS2 has been with his boyfriend for a year. My eldest son then sent a message, I’ll paraphrase but it effectively said that due to my attitude and opinions in regards to his girlfriend he will not be spending Christmas with me this year as he would like to spend it with her and refuses to expose her to my “inflammatory” opinions. He said he his brother and their partners have all booked to go skiing/snowboarding instead. They then all left the group message chat before I was able to reply.

First of all, this is not a way in which my son would ever normally speak to me, it was very defensive and accusatory in tone. Second of all, the opinions he is referring to are from a conversation I had with him following a large family get together for Easter. She is 24, French and seems to have an extremely elevated ego and level of confidence that borders on arrogance. I know she has a poor relationship with her own father (her mother has passed) but he none the less funds her life which consists entirely of expensive pastimes (snowboarding, tennis, concerts) and seemingly getting drunk, using drugs and partying.

At Easter she mentioned politics, which isn’t something I’d be keen to talk about over a family meal normally but my DS said that if we can’t have a friendly debate then we seal ourselves into an echo chamber of our own beliefs. She was totally unwilling to hear me out, and kept citing her multilingual abilities, degree and “travels” as reason she clearly knew much better than I, about politics, in Britain, a country she has only lived in for about 2 years. I shut the conversation down and said this is clearly unproductive. I then told my son afterwards that I had found her attitude to be filled with arrogance. She has also blank out refused to attend my nephews wedding as it was in a church and my DD told me that soon after she gave birth she said to her “if you ever want to play tennis or go to Pilates I will go with you; I’m sure you’re dying to shed the baby weight”. DD found this quite upsetting at the time but DS refused to call her out for it.

In terms of Christmas, both of my DS had said they would be spending this year with me, DS1 did not spend last year with me but DS2 did. I was looking forward to this and despite my dislikes of his girlfriend’s attitude, I made it clear she was also invited, as was DS2s boyfriend.

I called DS1 after the message in the group message chat and explained that I had never meant to cause offence to his girlfriend or to him for that matter and only ever shared opinions as she has always seemed so keen to be forthcoming with her own. I told him that I would be spending Christmas alone and I found that very upsetting and asked him to reconsider, I also offered to cover any costs associated with rescheduling their trip. He told me quite plainly it is not his problem that I would be alone and that he felt like I did not approve of his girlfriend and would never approve of him dating someone “intelligent, gorgeous and cultured” as it would make me “insecure”. Again this is never a way he has spoken to me before. He then hung up.

I then called DS2 who said that he was sorry I would be alone but he feels they’ve given me enough time to make other arrangements and that he feels that his brother is right that I clearly don’t like his girlfriend and he wants to show a stand of support to his brother and his girlfriend who he said he thinks is brilliant. He claimed I only don’t like her as she doesn’t conform to my expectations of a polite “basic” girl who just wants to get married and go on family holidays every year.

While I would say I don’t massively like her, I’m an adult and totally capable of being perfectly civil towards her. More so the reasons I don’t like her have nothing to do with her beliefs but her sheer arrogance, ego and reckless lifestyle, funded entirely by her father.

AIBU to be quite upset by this and to believe this is most likely coming from his girlfriend? How should I approach this going forward?

OP posts:
GreenGodiva · 16/09/2025 07:27

Your children don’t owe you company at Christmas. I’ve hosted every year since I was 14 and my step dad was rushed into hospital. I’m now 45 and I’ve done it every year without complaint BUT I’ve also created a level of entitlement amongst my 4 adult children. The ages and changing dynamics have meant that this year my sister and I are cooking Christmas dinner in our local church (4th year doing it and we’re started this from home in our kitchens). Take away meals to reheat on Christmas Eve and then a sitting on Christmas Day around 12-1pm to combat loneliness in the community or for anybody that fancies it. My DH and I also play mother and Father Christmas at the church all through December so will be doing the same to serve the meals with my DH playing guitar carols as we eat. Then we will get changed and off we pop for a big posh dinner out with 2 of our adult kids.

get yourself out and stop relying on your adult children to allow you to perform Christmas. get involved with community groups, go to a lovely pub or to visit friends. Go to your family in Australia or your friend in Canada. But create your son life instead of burdening your kids

2Magpies24 · 16/09/2025 07:28

I feel like your behaviour this year will shape christmases to come. Play it cool, be impeccable in your behaviour, wave them off with a smile and go volunteer at Christmas. It’s one day, but causing a drama this year will make them all think you’re being difficult, If they think you’re easy going and won’t pander to her troublemaking, then peace is more likely in the future.
They love you, they will be back, and will probably feel more of a pang at not being with you over Christmas if you are sweet and resigned than if you make things hard.

ItWasnaMeGuv · 16/09/2025 07:28

Whilst I am sad you are spending Christmas alone, I also understand perfectly why. You may imagine you will have a lovely time but your children and their partners clearly don't. for good reason, sadly.

SomewhatAnnoyed · 16/09/2025 07:29

Diarygirlqueen · 16/09/2025 00:15

I think the way they told you was cruel and very humiliating, especially to add their partners in the chat.
It's clear you don't like his girlfriend, I would accept their decision and move on. Don't be making this situation worse or you could lose the two of them, though why they couldn't pick up the phone and explain is baffling!
Go to Australia or Canada and spend the holiday with people who enjoy your company!

Go to Australia or Canada and spend the holiday with people who enjoy your company!

She hasn’t been invited! All the posters telling her to go to these places - what’s she meant to do - contact these ppl and tell
them she’s joining them for the biggest family event of the year?! 😂😂😂 or is she meant to book her flights, pay for accommodation and just knock on their door on the day yelling “Surpriiiiiiise!!!!!”🥳

Ludicrous suggestions. I mean, seriously? Bad enough to invite yourself when they’re in the same country - but Canada and Australia ffs!

OP - it must be a really shit position to be in. That’s what being a parent mother is tho sadly. You can devote yourself (rightly) to the children you bring into the world but most of the time human beings are selfish animals, particularly men. You are le dafter an nurtured them when they were young. Bluntly put, they don’t need you any more. It’s one of the saddest realities there is.

Daughters often feel more of an emotional pull and will put themselves out to accommodate their parents feelings, but not always. They didn’t ask to be brought into the world so should not be compelled to pay back the debt of bringing them up through their childhood and teenage years forever. But it’s obviously not as simple as that.

Parents shouldn’t expect to be put first or above their children’s partners as that is damaging to their relationships and future happiness and well being - that’s why it’s advised to take a back seat, as their partners will be responsible for that role now - and they theirs. However, there is obviously a great deal of hurt to be had when children who you have loved and supported throughout their entire lives suddenly turn their backs on you, and not only that, stick the boot in, as OP’s sons have done to her.

There may very well be a back story of emotional blackmail which they are sick of, or that the OP is herself a domineering character who has dictated how it will be and doesn’t like another strong woman entering the picture. However, I find it really interesting having read many, many threads, how many ppl are defending the GF in this situation. I have read countless posts where the mere mention of drugs - whether it be partners or children is my with horror and condemnation - yet with this GF it’s a ‘lifestyle choice’. The same goes for partners and children sponging off their parents. It’s not to be tolerated according to the majority. But here we are with a young woman who not only accepts the invitation of her (still new) BF’s mother to attend a big family event at her home, she then goes on to disrespect her in her own house by belittling her opinions and telling her that despite being on the planet (and in her own country) a lot longer than she has, she is more intelligent (if this is true in itself, the fucking rudeness to anyone, let alone the parent of your partner!) because she speaks more than one language, has a degree and is well-travelled. The fucking audacity! Of course it’s bloody arrogant. And it’s no excuse bc she is young and shagging OP’s son that she gets to be so rude to her while she is welcoming her into her home and showing her hospitality. I can well understand why OP was angry at being patronised by this woman in front of friends and family and she defended herself in the same vain.

We don’t know the backstory so we don’t know how OP has behaved to her leading up to this, nor the tone in which she speaks to her or of her before this happened. I think OP’s feelings are justified, but as others have said , OP, and as you have acknowledged, you can not expect to voice these feelings to your children (or any other friend or family member) without severe backlash. She is the one he is presumably living with and is seeing to his needs now, and that’s all that he cares about. Men are disappointingly simple creatures and put certain aspects of their lives (without going into detail) above all else. Look at how many leave their wives and families for their latest sexual conquest - no one can compete with a bed warmer, not mothers, fathers, siblings or friends. Or even their own children.

As PP said there are 3 sides to a story. The fact that her sons ganged up against her with their partners in such a humiliating way suggests that either they view her as a bully and this was the only way they could get their point across without being shut down by her, or that they are all thoroughly immature and thrive on drama.

Christmases have been celebrated the way you’ve wanted since you were 23, OP, and although a dream for you, it was naturally unrealistic to expect them to continue like this forever. The only thing that can be done, like others have suggested, is to crack on with the primary focus being YOU this year. Wait for the dust to clear, apologise, don’t grovel, and set about coming up with different options you can really look forward to indulging in at the end of the year. Try not to focus on the day itself if that is upsetting to you, but absolutely plan several wonderful alternatives that you can choose between on the day and try to enjoy yourself. If your children see as not being ‘needy’ and having fun without them then will probably gravitate to you more. Good luck

Glowingup · 16/09/2025 07:29

EatMoreChocolate44 · 16/09/2025 07:20

I think they are being unkind. They prefer to go skiing and this is how they are justifying it. Your son who isn't going out with the french girl really has no reason not to go to yours. He probably thinks if his brother and sister aren't going then it will be boring and is using it as an excuse. I'm sorry OP. I would never leave any family member alone at Christmas unless there were some extreme circumstances.

The other brother has also been invited to the ski holiday. So of course he has a reason for wanting to go. Why shouldn’t he go on a fun holiday with his boyfriend, brother and brothers gf? Why should he have to endure Christmas with a difficult mother who has decided that Christmas is the most important day of the year and guilt trips anyone who doesn’t go along with this nonsense?

This is yet another reason why I also don’t agree with those who say you should stay single forever for your kids following divorce. This is the sort of thing that happens if you do. If the OP had her own husband or partner this wouldn’t even be an issue. Don’t live your life through your adult kids - get your own.

Btowngirl · 16/09/2025 07:32

I’m 34 and have 2 young children. Over the years there’s been a lot of pressure to spend time with my mum who raised us as a single parent and also adores Christmas.

Whilst I love my mum and am so grateful for everything she has done for us, now I have my own children I can’t imagine putting pressure on them to always be with me and being upset with them for wanting to live their own lives. Isn’t our job as parents to prepare them to go and make the most of life?

Skiing over Christmas sounds like a lovely opportunity, and whilst their delivery sounds unnecessarily harsh, I think you are unfair to suggest they cancel. The more you voice your opinions about this girlfriend, the more you are going to push your DS away.

Luckyingame · 16/09/2025 07:32

Yes, my mother in another country will be also spending Christmas alone. She was and still is an abusive narcissist.
Life.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 16/09/2025 07:33

ViciousCurrentBun · 16/09/2025 01:02

Unless your children are at risk of genuine harm from a partner you never ever comment negatively.

This ^

Sorry OP, you messed up big time.

whimsicallyprickly · 16/09/2025 07:34

Glowingup · 16/09/2025 07:29

The other brother has also been invited to the ski holiday. So of course he has a reason for wanting to go. Why shouldn’t he go on a fun holiday with his boyfriend, brother and brothers gf? Why should he have to endure Christmas with a difficult mother who has decided that Christmas is the most important day of the year and guilt trips anyone who doesn’t go along with this nonsense?

This is yet another reason why I also don’t agree with those who say you should stay single forever for your kids following divorce. This is the sort of thing that happens if you do. If the OP had her own husband or partner this wouldn’t even be an issue. Don’t live your life through your adult kids - get your own.

Ensure you have a partner/husband to cover future Christmases? Oh my! 🤣🤣🤣 I've heard it all now 🙄

What the flip is wrong with spending time alone? Or helping at a charity?

FYI - alone does NOT mean lonely and helping others is a lovely thing to do.

Dancingsquirrels · 16/09/2025 07:34

The way they told you was unnecessarily cruel and humiliating

But this isn't about Christmas. It's about wider relationships

Posting here probably unwise. Easily recognisable

And agree with PP, if the GF is using vocalise, id imagine your DS is too

HarrietBond · 16/09/2025 07:35

SomewhatAnnoyed · 16/09/2025 07:29

Go to Australia or Canada and spend the holiday with people who enjoy your company!

She hasn’t been invited! All the posters telling her to go to these places - what’s she meant to do - contact these ppl and tell
them she’s joining them for the biggest family event of the year?! 😂😂😂 or is she meant to book her flights, pay for accommodation and just knock on their door on the day yelling “Surpriiiiiiise!!!!!”🥳

Ludicrous suggestions. I mean, seriously? Bad enough to invite yourself when they’re in the same country - but Canada and Australia ffs!

OP - it must be a really shit position to be in. That’s what being a parent mother is tho sadly. You can devote yourself (rightly) to the children you bring into the world but most of the time human beings are selfish animals, particularly men. You are le dafter an nurtured them when they were young. Bluntly put, they don’t need you any more. It’s one of the saddest realities there is.

Daughters often feel more of an emotional pull and will put themselves out to accommodate their parents feelings, but not always. They didn’t ask to be brought into the world so should not be compelled to pay back the debt of bringing them up through their childhood and teenage years forever. But it’s obviously not as simple as that.

Parents shouldn’t expect to be put first or above their children’s partners as that is damaging to their relationships and future happiness and well being - that’s why it’s advised to take a back seat, as their partners will be responsible for that role now - and they theirs. However, there is obviously a great deal of hurt to be had when children who you have loved and supported throughout their entire lives suddenly turn their backs on you, and not only that, stick the boot in, as OP’s sons have done to her.

There may very well be a back story of emotional blackmail which they are sick of, or that the OP is herself a domineering character who has dictated how it will be and doesn’t like another strong woman entering the picture. However, I find it really interesting having read many, many threads, how many ppl are defending the GF in this situation. I have read countless posts where the mere mention of drugs - whether it be partners or children is my with horror and condemnation - yet with this GF it’s a ‘lifestyle choice’. The same goes for partners and children sponging off their parents. It’s not to be tolerated according to the majority. But here we are with a young woman who not only accepts the invitation of her (still new) BF’s mother to attend a big family event at her home, she then goes on to disrespect her in her own house by belittling her opinions and telling her that despite being on the planet (and in her own country) a lot longer than she has, she is more intelligent (if this is true in itself, the fucking rudeness to anyone, let alone the parent of your partner!) because she speaks more than one language, has a degree and is well-travelled. The fucking audacity! Of course it’s bloody arrogant. And it’s no excuse bc she is young and shagging OP’s son that she gets to be so rude to her while she is welcoming her into her home and showing her hospitality. I can well understand why OP was angry at being patronised by this woman in front of friends and family and she defended herself in the same vain.

We don’t know the backstory so we don’t know how OP has behaved to her leading up to this, nor the tone in which she speaks to her or of her before this happened. I think OP’s feelings are justified, but as others have said , OP, and as you have acknowledged, you can not expect to voice these feelings to your children (or any other friend or family member) without severe backlash. She is the one he is presumably living with and is seeing to his needs now, and that’s all that he cares about. Men are disappointingly simple creatures and put certain aspects of their lives (without going into detail) above all else. Look at how many leave their wives and families for their latest sexual conquest - no one can compete with a bed warmer, not mothers, fathers, siblings or friends. Or even their own children.

As PP said there are 3 sides to a story. The fact that her sons ganged up against her with their partners in such a humiliating way suggests that either they view her as a bully and this was the only way they could get their point across without being shut down by her, or that they are all thoroughly immature and thrive on drama.

Christmases have been celebrated the way you’ve wanted since you were 23, OP, and although a dream for you, it was naturally unrealistic to expect them to continue like this forever. The only thing that can be done, like others have suggested, is to crack on with the primary focus being YOU this year. Wait for the dust to clear, apologise, don’t grovel, and set about coming up with different options you can really look forward to indulging in at the end of the year. Try not to focus on the day itself if that is upsetting to you, but absolutely plan several wonderful alternatives that you can choose between on the day and try to enjoy yourself. If your children see as not being ‘needy’ and having fun without them then will probably gravitate to you more. Good luck

Um, I’d suggest the conversation might go ‘hi brother, the kids are all doing their own thing this Christmas and I was wondering whether you might welcome a guest this year?’.

Not the most outlandish thing to say to your own sibling I’d have thought.

Allisgoodtoday · 16/09/2025 07:35

Ye Gods! What is it with these people who are so over-invested in Christmas??
I mean, I love Christmas myself and wait all summer for the run-up to Christmas to begin again but I'm not invested like this!

I get that you love hosting it, but it would seem that's gone on for years and the family are grown up and ready to do their own thing now. On top of that there's all the other stuff where you haven't exactly been welcoming and not dealt with things very well.

Many pp have already stated it better than I, but really, start doing new things and make some other arrangements for Christmas (which might be just as lovely) and which don't always rely on having family round you for your happiness.

aCatCalledFawkes · 16/09/2025 07:35

Why aren't you more concerned about the fact you have fallen out with your son and the 100 or so days before Christmas that also matter. Christmas is one day and you have turned this whole argument in to a pity party about yourself. Lots of people spend Christmas by themselves and you will just have to struggle on and see your family another day. Very entitled to write a post all about being on your own one day of the year.

AgnesX · 16/09/2025 07:36

And this is why you bite your tongue with family interactions and any degree of honesty.

If you haven't already, I suggest you apologise and suck up the fact that you're likely to be having a quiet Christmas this year. Having done that, sit back and let them come to you. It may pass if you don't force it.

glittereyelash · 16/09/2025 07:37

You've had many many wonderful Christmases with your children. One alone will be fine. I've had to do a few alone and it's not as tragic as you might think. Just plan out your day and it will pass.

Glowingup · 16/09/2025 07:37

whimsicallyprickly · 16/09/2025 07:34

Ensure you have a partner/husband to cover future Christmases? Oh my! 🤣🤣🤣 I've heard it all now 🙄

What the flip is wrong with spending time alone? Or helping at a charity?

FYI - alone does NOT mean lonely and helping others is a lovely thing to do.

Well alone means lonely for the OP doesn’t it? I probably worded it wrong but the point I am making is do not live your life through your children. They are not obligated to keep you company or spend time with you because they feel guilty if they don’t. If you are happy to do your own thing, go on holiday, volunteer then that’s excellent (by the way, I love my own company and would absolutely be happy with that). If you are the type to always need someone there (which is clearly the OP), then you need to find your own people as a support system, either a partner or a close friend. Not your adult kids.

Titasaducksarse · 16/09/2025 07:37

I'm sorry I've not read everything so apologies if this has been said.
I wonder if your massive, almost obsessional love of Christmas Day has, actually been too much over the years and your children have just had enough!

Do you maybe get super stressed or insist on things a certain way that, to them is controlling and they're thinking 'fuck this'.

Clarefromwork · 16/09/2025 07:38

Does your daughter know ? Would she maybe do something joint with her PIL and you ? Or could you offer to host your daughter and her PIL at yours ?

GRCP · 16/09/2025 07:39

You need to message them and say you are sorry you made them feel this way and you love them. You want them all, partners included, to have a wonderful Christmas however they chose. Then just suck it up and find a different way to celebrate. Basically, you need to be the adult here. If you don’t, you’ll find there’ll be many more Christmases you spend alone.

TorroFerney · 16/09/2025 07:41

SoOriginal · 16/09/2025 00:39

Sometimes you have to lay in the bed you’ve made OP. It was shortsighted to make the GF feel unwelcome, and arrogant to assume your DS would pick you over her.

You talk a lot about being the ‘host’ and there’s a real ‘main character’ vibe of your OP. Your children are grown now, and your role in their life has changed but I don’t think you’ve adjusted to what this new phase looks like.

Take some time out over Christmas DO NOT guilt trip them, that would be disastrous. Apologise TO the gf. Invite them out for dinner (neutral territory, don’t suggest dinner at yours!) and try to build some common ground with this girl, as she’s clearly very important to your son.

I also think that as “the host”your role is also to be aware when the conversation is getting tricky and move it on, there can’t have been more inflammatory topics to discuss. It was time to get the dominoes out.

BeefAndHorseradishSandwich · 16/09/2025 07:42

I agree with the other posters, you sound like a bit of a pain. Plus, your kids probably want to start making their own traditions and having Christmas dinner at their own home. It’s hard but times change 🤷‍♀️ Hope it works out for you.

Owly11 · 16/09/2025 07:42

You are conflating two different things. One is spending Christmas alone. You have to get used to this because you can’t expect people to always come to you. You certainly shouldn’t make people feel bad. The other issue is the falling out. Your son’s gf does sound very opinionated but then so do you. Perhaps she is a bit like you but with different politics and moral code. I think the way they set up the group chat was rude and unpleasant but perhaps they find it hard to stand up to you and perhaps they have learnt rudeness from you? Calling someone arrogant is pretty damn rude. So you have learnt a lesson and as with all life lessons it’s a painful one. But you have plenty of time to plan a nice Christmas and to reflect on how things went and how you could do them differently next time.

whimsicallyprickly · 16/09/2025 07:42

Glowingup · 16/09/2025 07:37

Well alone means lonely for the OP doesn’t it? I probably worded it wrong but the point I am making is do not live your life through your children. They are not obligated to keep you company or spend time with you because they feel guilty if they don’t. If you are happy to do your own thing, go on holiday, volunteer then that’s excellent (by the way, I love my own company and would absolutely be happy with that). If you are the type to always need someone there (which is clearly the OP), then you need to find your own people as a support system, either a partner or a close friend. Not your adult kids.

You're right. Sorry......I should have understood your post.

And tbh it's easy for those of us who love being alone and never feel lonely.

You're right (again) the OP is not one of those people, and therefore my advice isn't helpful 🙄

Mind you, maybe the OP can teach herself, over the next few years, to enjoy alone time? I didn't always enjoy being alone. Its only in the last 10 years that I've learned how fabulous it is (for me)

MrsVinceVega · 16/09/2025 07:42

My mother is the same about Christmas, she puts pressure on me to invite her and sees being alone as the worst possible thing in the world.

The result is that I now dread Christmas. It means that my DH and I can't have the Christmas we want.

You sound like you project the same feelings about Christmas. And that's before the fallings out about politics.

Reasontoreason · 16/09/2025 07:43

It’s not your children’s job to parent you ! Seems like they have spent many years pleasing you when I comes to Christmas plans. Now they have decided to do what they actually like .Stop trying to guilt your kids ,

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