Which country will you move to if Reform win next election?

[Krenonges]

Faced with the prospect of NHS being sold off, ICE-style immigration raids and deportations, emboldened bigots, changes to the school curriculum, public services dessimated, leaving EHCR, I honestly think I'll have no choice but to leave. I don't want to but I couldn't bring DC up in fascist state.

Luckily my DH, DC and I are all dual nationals of an EU country so we have an escape route if needed and this country goes to the dogs.

Where would you go?

I don't see a political solution at this point, sadly. Voting makes no difference, protesting makes no difference. This has been coming down the pipeline for years.

Sorry to hear that. My DH also from abroad and give seen him be treated wrongly here because of it. I really hate the bigots out there

Naive.

I’d hold out for another couple of years if I were you - there’s no way they will get in again next time.

Not sure that matters if you come across as English. Its not like you walk about waving your passport.
If you are Italian born and brought up then my post doesn't apply.

@Buddingbudde I didn’t turn off the radio. I was so upset but I thought ok, this is a democracy; this is what people want even tho I definitely felt it would affect us economically in the long term. I genuinely couldn’t see any positives.

So I was there… listening to the radio… watching TV … ok what’s the strategy? - are we going low tax haven vibe? , what are we going to do differently and more nimbly? What’s the plan ‘Government who held a referendum’ ??….

….and there was silence … oh there’s Cameron resigning… oh there’s Boris doing a runner… ok … still waiting for the plan… waiting waiting… how are we going to use our independence to become more prosperous as a nation??
waiting… waiting …
Should have just turned off the radio

I’d have the option of Italy initially, and once there claim my citizenship (it’s hard to get it from here because they make it very hard to get an appointment).

Then once I had that could move anywhere.

However, the nature of my job is such that I might feel honour bound to stay.

Yes it's been brewing for more than 40 years. We need to hit rock bottom before things can change

Currently looking at Bermuda, we have in demand qualifications but we’re quite old.

If Reform get in I would be devastated and desperate to get away

DC and I could get Irish passports, so that would open some options for us. DP might have to marry me for a passport ;)

Labour are struggling with that now. I don’t think mners will be as much of an issue.

@Krenonges Faced with the prospect of NHS being sold off, ICE-style immigration raids and deportations, emboldened bigots, changes to the school curriculum, public services dessimated, leaving EHCR, I honestly think I'll have no choice but to leave. I don't want to but I couldn't bring DC up in fascist state.

I don't get what the issue is.

Reform are basically a single issue party. Their entire election campaign is built on stopping small boat crossings. But everyone from all ends of the political spectrum agrees that human trafficking and the modern slave trade across the channel needs to stop, so what's the issue?

Apart from that, they would just be deporting people who don't have a legal right to be here. Again, something that everyone agrees on.

Some of their other policies are bonkers- but every 5 years, there's an opportunity to vote them out.

Would actually stay if they got in. Can’t come soon enough

From the UK? I got mine at the Consulate in London

Was just about to say this. Normally we would say come on, it’s great here….. not so much anymore the country’s tipped as we say.

Ok. I'm not personally looking to move to Ireland but when I googled it said the following about the Common Travel Agreement. I thought Irish people have the same rights in the UK?

You miss the point. It's what they would do in their 5 years in power that's the problem. Wreaking irreversible damage to systems, public sector etc.

I wouldn't be, because like the majority of people, I don't have the financial capacity to just up sticks to another country, even if I or my husband could satisfy the immigration requirements. Plus, none of us speak another language, so we would be severely limited - USA is out of the question and Aus is too far away.

No I don't want to live in a fascist state. But I would be willing to be part of the Resistance if it comes to that.

@Katemax82 Greece has nomad visa and it’s one if the easiest in Europe if you work for yourself , earn well and don’t need to work in the Greek economy. In fact anyone thinking bollocks to Reform and in this position should check out where you can go and the conditions - bearing in mind if you need schools etc . We don’t . There is a lot of choice. Sadly Sweden Denmark, Netherlands and France don’t have it but many others do including Spain and Italy . I think Farage might find if many high earners do leave that he can do suprisingly jack shit of the kind of bullshit he spouts with not a bottomless pit of cash - a bit like they are finding at the councils -

I think they can due to the agreement between UK and Ireland.

I love England - we have worldwide opportunities but I would rather stay here and straighten out the problems personally. Every country that is worth living in face exactly the same problem folks.

How much do you think you’ll be asked to pay for his ‘insurance model’ healthcare?

I don’t know where I could go. I will be just retirement age, in constant pain, and relying on the nhs.
I think I’d better just jump off a cliff. I could make a protest banner to unroll as I fall.
I would welcome alternative suggestions though.

Allegedly. Though they haven't taxed the wealthy yet, it's the fear that they might for some.

Oh my god that’s awful @Krenonges am really sorry that’s happened.

This country has gone weird because a lot of people have got poorer. Instead of blaming the 1% who own half the land in the country, they’re blaming other poor people who aren’t like them.