Which country will you move to if Reform win next election?

[Krenonges]

Faced with the prospect of NHS being sold off, ICE-style immigration raids and deportations, emboldened bigots, changes to the school curriculum, public services dessimated, leaving EHCR, I honestly think I'll have no choice but to leave. I don't want to but I couldn't bring DC up in fascist state.

Luckily my DH, DC and I are all dual nationals of an EU country so we have an escape route if needed and this country goes to the dogs.

Where would you go?

Well, you might like it a bit more!
I am mainly Scottish by descent, from even further back than 1300. I have lived here most of my life but still get shit for 'sounding English'. I am taking the view that if I have coped with living under the appalling SNP for the last umpty years I can probably cope with 4-5 years of ghastly Farage!

I didn’t know anyone in real life who voted Leave and look what happened there. 😔

Imagine the devastation they can wreak in 5 years. They have no fucking idea what they’re doing. They’ll be voted in and have no idea what to do, just like when Brexit happened, they all fucked off and left someone else to make it happen - which they tried to and failed.

I wouldn't go anywhere - the UK is a great country.

I'm frankly amazed that, even now, the radical left are the ones who refuse to acknowledge that they are largely responsible for all the hostility we're currently experiencing.
The sort of rhetoric in the OP is so unnecessarily divisive yet STILL you keep going. It's beyond boring now!

So, to be honest, if a Reform win is all it would take for a few million Liebour loving Lefties to leave the UK maybe Britain could get back to being Great again.
For the record, I have always been centrist in my politics but, frankly, the left of recent years have made me feel quite ill.

Nigel visiting the USA saying that the UK has no free speech.
Mmm if that was the case how the fuck were you able to leave the UK and speak out against the UK
Fucking twat!!

I'm surprised at that.

If that's actually true, and English people can indeed simply walk into Ireland and get a job, then the fact that Ireland has about 5 million people and the UK has 65 million people would say that the whole thing is hyperbole and the UK isn't as bad as everyone is saying.

What do you think you’ll pay for insurance based healthcare that Farage wants?

I won't be moving anywhere.

Running away because things 'might' get a bit tough isn't my style. I'm more of a 'face it and fight it' kind of person.

Wreaking irreversible damage to systems and the public sector?

Are you talking about the public sector that has already suffered irreversible damage and is practically non-existent at this point?

Again what do you expect to pay for insurance based healthcare?

I'm a tad older than you, and I feel just the same. I was demonstrating against the National Front in the 70s/early 80s, I thought this racist and xenophobic shite was done and dusted back then. It seems that, like the poor, the fascists are always with us, they just sometimes keep a lower profile.

I have never been as despondent about the future of this country than I am now. And I feel desperately sad for young people. Two of my friends have just been told by their early 20's kids that they are looking to move overseas. One's even considering China.

Why do you think Labour haven’t rushed to bring in customs union or single market which would invigorate the market almost immediately ? Because the fact is they know that an awful lot of higher earners and middle earners too would ship out once freedom of movement was back and they need that tax dollar . Not because in most cases of anything they have done but because of all that went before under the Tory’s that has decimated many things , the rise of the right etc - whilst yes I know many do believe that Farage is the coming of Christ , an absolute ton of people simply don’t too -

It would be a strange common travel agreement if the agreement was that Irish people can live/work/access services etc in the UK but not vice versa I guess.

This post wins cliche bingo of the day award.

I'm too old to move country, I'm here for the duration. Reform won't get in and if they did, they wouldn't last long.

Was it Jamie Oliver who emphatically stated that they would be leaving the UK if leave won the Brexit vote? Nearly ten years later and we're still stuck with the the bloody pukka twit.

Was googling property in Portugal last week, we can get non working visas easily for there as meet the criteria and plenty more, he’s retired and I will be by then

Who said I'm a leftie or Labour loving?

You've always been centrist but now want the far right to win? Ok

Exactly this isn't far right it's extreme far right and they've never gone away in years gone by it was newspaper sales, leaflets, stickers now their message is spread through social media but the message is always the same as it has been for decades.

Portugal is a good place to live if you want to suffer in a heatwave.

Can you not imagine that some peoples lives are so shit they feel they have nothing to lose? They are the people voting reform in their droves, just like they voted for Brexit. But these people’s lives just get swept under the carpet by Labour. They’re just treated as bigots.

I think part of the problem is that no one on the left actually wants to know anyone on the right. They’d prefer they didn’t exist and certainly aren’t interested in discussing the problems with them or trying to find any common ground, so ridicule and dismiss them, and then seem genuinely surprised when parties like Reform gain ground. Conservatives are just quiet. Make all the right noises, play along, but think and vote quite differently.

Saw it all the time on here before the Brexit vote. People absolutely convinced that Remain had it in the bag, because they didn’t know or associate with anyone who’d dream of voting to Leave…

Norway!

These types of threads show how we can all access the same information but come to radically different conclusions.

● PP said the top 20 % of earners will leave if Reform wins. This is a crazy idea as currently the top earners and businesses are leaving due to massive tax hikes and hidden tax hikes. Reform want lower taxes and lower business rates.

● Reform are racist. Their second in command is a brown Muslim....does this show they are not racist?

● Reform voters want benefits. I cannot figure this one out. The current Labour government has seen an increase in overall benefits including a huge increase in disability.

● Reform will send illegal immigrants back. Yes, this is true but I think you'll find every country in the West will begin this. Truthfully we annotation fit every person into Brigain who wants to come. Africa and India would sink the UK physically. Not figuratively. I mean this sincerely.

●Reform are fascists. Well, I doubt many of you know what this means as if you did you'd realise they are far removed from fascists, and perhaps the current government is more closely aligned with this description.

I had the same information as you all, and this is how I perceive Reform. Interesting that people can get such different ideas from the same input.