Which country will you move to if Reform win next election?

[Krenonges]

Faced with the prospect of NHS being sold off, ICE-style immigration raids and deportations, emboldened bigots, changes to the school curriculum, public services dessimated, leaving EHCR, I honestly think I'll have no choice but to leave. I don't want to but I couldn't bring DC up in fascist state.

Luckily my DH, DC and I are all dual nationals of an EU country so we have an escape route if needed and this country goes to the dogs.

Where would you go?

Good choice

Yep. They’ve been saying this though for thirty years. No one listens. It never had to reach this crisis point, that’s the thing.

Have you lived in Scotland? Progressive? A lot hate anyone who was not born and bread there. In which way are they progressive?

Who knows. It took a lot of journalistic snooping to expose her domestic arrangements and house swapping. And the fact she avoided paying £40k tax.

Norway has the Progress party. Much more professional than Reform so even more likely to win the next election.

I live in Scotland and that’s ^ a load of crap.

Can't wait, reform all the way then.

You’ve spent your entire adult life with your head in the sand.

I'm not so sure Reform will get in once it becomes clear they have no actual costed policies, and when the impact of leaving the ECHR dawns on the people who need this the most., Also, I don't think Farage wants to be PM. He will run away if it comes to it because he knows he's full of shite. He knows he can't stop boats, he knows he has no economic plan. He just likes agitating from the sidelines, but no way does he want to be actually held to account. Just like the day after the Brexit referendum - he resigned from politics and public life. Do people forget this?

Even if they do get in, the economy would implode and I doubt they'd last a full term.

When all the Reform voters realise they are poorer under Reform (and it has nothing to do with immigrants, it has to do with their education and aspiration and the fact that white working class boys do worse in school than any other demographic - including immigrants) then they'll just vote Labour back in. But then nothing will change for them again. So they'll vote in a more extreme version of Reform. Or maybe they'll vote for Green Party by then, just anything really to register frustration with their lot.

I will be voting for none of them. If we go abroad it would be Lisbon, most probably. If Farage gets in, I'll deny being British until he's gone.

Haven’t read the whole thread but DH and I have been having serious conversations around this. I wrote about it on another thread. DH and the kids are dual nationals so we’d move to his home country.

Farage is the reason we have the boat issue (Brexit) and the country is broke, yet the media particularly the BBC are obsessed with him so he’s doing is same old Pied Piper routine. Rather than being able to focus on improving the country, the government is fully focused on boats as a result.

I was watching interviews with some of the attendees at Saturday’s march, one guy had on a USA hat and Israeli flag. The interviewer asked him what the USA and Israel have to do with being patriotic to Britain and he couldn’t form a coherent sentence let alone explain. These are the people we’re supposed to listen to and the voters the main parties are chasing. It’s absurd.

If Reform get in the country is finished.

Keir needs to jump the shark here. Leave the ECHR, create a bill of rights that mirrors it but leaves us free to deport whoever we like. And start deporting people.

Take the wind out of Reform’s sales, reduce the number of economic migrants rapidly and help focus resources on true asylum seekers and the UK public.

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How have these people’s lives just get swept under the carpet by Labour?

I'm from Scotland and I'm laughing at all the posters who think they would be welcomed with open arms!

DH and I have discussed New Zealand as a possibility. He has transferable and valued skills. I have none but, thankfully, we can self fund

You chose to live here, so I am assuming that at the time the grass was not greener. Switzerland won’t let you in, not part of the EU. Yes Italy is far right and Spain is very anti immigration and tourists. So where else? The French are going far right, as are Germany, Belgium etc.

I have always wanted to live in Thailand.
Nothing to do with Reform ....Just a cheaper country with great food and culture. They have retirement visas! Need to learn Thai though.

It’s already finished, most likely. Labour and Conservative have managed it between them.

"Jump the shark" means when something is past its prime.

What I'm already paying probably! Have had health insurance for about a decade now and I wouldn't be without it.
The idea of having to be treated in an NHS hospital actually makes my blood run cold.

Nailed it🔨

Well, you couldn't stop us coming up there.

He already is.

Fucking hell, that's appalling.

I'm so sorry you and your kids have had to endure that.