Husband touched a kid to reprimand them on school trip

[ToddlerIs2]

Husband went on school ltrip with yr 6 dc as our DC"s 121 so only responsible for him. Yr 4 girl in front was being annoying all journey. Husband asked her to stop several times. He dozed off and she banged the seats again (so banding onto her knee) and he lent over and tapped her on the head and told her to stop. Off the coach the teacher spoke to him and he said sorry, didn't think etc. now head wants to see him. What's the likely consequences? We have a lot going on and I'm not holding it all together very well so at home so don't know how irrational I am. He's never smacked out kids so I know it won't have been a smack to the head etc and it was only when she got off she told the teacher. I'm absolutely fuming because how did he forget to never touch someone else's child? And obviously there's an angry parent there that there's a grown man who's touched their daughter so school will probably have to make an example of him. Any ideas what's likely to happen?

It wasn’t a punishment. It was getting her attention to ask her to stop
If it was that big of an issue people would have noticed and she would have reacted there and then.

I wonder how many teachers were on the bus and where they were sitting.

It’s an important issue in terms of gaining the truth of the matter OP

You can definitely tell the people who have worked with children, from the people who have not worked with children.

"Would you not just hug an upset child."

Eh no because we would be fired straightaway.

Oh no, I get ‘the rules’, what I think is ridiculous is the extreme nature of responding to some very real concerns.

As I said upthread;

Capital punishment is not OK, I agree, not being able to tap someone in order to get their attention is ridiculous and leads to further problems down the line. It villainizes adults trying to manage poor behaviour and enables young people to continue with this.

Abuse is a very genuine concern, the response of no one touches a child to offer comfort or support is awful and harmful down the line.

I was responding to someone asking what punishment the child got for her “misbehaviour”.

This^

Sitting still for an hour? At least being told off for it, not being treated like the survivor of a dastardly attack on her person!

Assuming it was just a tap on the head. How would being tapped on the head be harmful? Genuine question.
How could it be a safeguarding or police matter. I just don’t get it.

Meanwhile children are actually being abused.

I can say that if my kid was acting up on the bus and purposely annoying someone else, I would absolutely be fine with an another adult tapping them on the the head and telling them to stop. I would not see it as abuse.
An unpopular opinion on here but I think the girl probably didn’t like to be told off.

He tapped a child on the head and we're talking about assault charges?! WTAF. C'mon people get a grip, he's not going to be arrested and convicted of assault. A telling off from the school, sure but beyond that would be a massive overreaction. And he dozed off on the bus? So what? Big deal! He was there for his own child only, if he has a nap, what does it matter?!

I've worked with children both as a nursery assistant and as a volunteer with Beavers and Squirrels. Absolutely no issue with hugging a child. There'd be problems if I took them into a room alone and hugged them, but a quick hug or letting them sit on my lap or whatever in a public space with others around is of course acceptable.

Honest to God, you can see from the reactions on here why we have so many feral kids in this country!

I was recently sitting next to a screaming child for two hours on a plane. Is it ok for me to tap that child on the head?

Quite. What a sad world.

Your husband has learnt the hard way why only idiots volunteer to do things involving other people's children. There is no upside and just risk. Next time the school needs to send a TA to be the 1-2-1 for your child.

To me it was just a thoughtless tap? Not inappropriate touching of a child! How can it be a police matter?

Snoozing while sat next to his child is not a problem either is it? Surely he’s not required to be sat watching him every second?

Very young children in a nursery is different. You have to pick the children up to change their nappies or whatever.

Once they get to school age, it is different. We are not allowed to touch children in any way in my current school. It was the same in the last school that i worked in

Complete nonsense. I taught in School Nurseries and Reception.

I can't believe people are talking about calling the police because someone tapped a child on the head to get their attention. If my child came home and told me they were tapped on the head by an adult I wouldn't think twice about it. Ridiculous overreactions.

Okay, just noting she might have been told of for it, why do you think she hasn’t been?

Whats nonsense exactly?

As long as you pretend it’s to get their attention, I think it’s fine?

Sundaymorningcalla · Today 13:06

"Husbands a nonce"

Don't be ridiculous

I was.just about to write this aswell.

Never volunteer for a school, as you won't be thanked!

Me too, it shouldn't have happened, the teachers and ta are also there to supervise the children, what were they doing when the child was banging into his seat, I would never volunteer to help anymore, I'm sorry he reacted this way, he probably won't be allowed to volunteer any more and hopefully both sets of parents can discuss this with the Head.

screaming, or being an annoyance to other children who are quickly losing patience when YOU are the one in charge of them?

If you want to make a comparison, go for it, but don't make stuff up.