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My son has gone on the march

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funkadelic · 13/09/2025 10:59

Hi, have been on here years but only lurk, don’t post. But today is the day.
I am in bits. My 22yr old DS is in London on this march. I am shaking and utterly appalled. We differ on politics massively and have done for some time. I work in education, have travelled and am bit of a lefty hippy but to be honest it’s becoming more about values and morals. He is fully immersed in the manosphere algorithm and I’ve always thought he is exploring himself and things and have chats about why he has the opinions he does and try and understand his point of view. I try not to belittle him but try and get him to critically think about things.
But this I can’t deal with. I am so upset that my son has gone to this, and that it is something that is so far away from me and my values, something that I thought I had instilled in him as well.
I am totally aware that it’s triggered embarrassment but that is my issue and I’m not putting that on him. He is still my son and I love him and his passion and interest in the world, just in something I believe is so wrong and makes me sad.
Please talk some sense into me.

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justasking111 · 13/09/2025 16:57

Neighbour across the road thinks all women are inferior. His wife's only use is as a breeder, his mother in-law as a childminder . He'll only talk to my husband and other male neighbours. Thinks me uppity telling my husband to keep me in line. And yet he worships the ground his mother walks on. It's amusing because he's a rarity, it would be frightening if his views were the majority where we live.

cardibach · 13/09/2025 16:57

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2025 16:26

Well of course that's going to be the case statistically. Because only 3% of the population are poc.

So we aren’t overrun then? Goodo.

Anotheremptynester · 13/09/2025 16:58

Donttellempike · 13/09/2025 16:48

Virtue signaling to whom? News just in , this is an anonymous forum. Nice try though 👍

Virtue signalling just requires an audience, they dont need to know you 😂.

Its the path of least effort and research, and makes the signaller feel all warm and self righteous. The rest of us know the world isnt just full of goodies and baddies, and take time to find the nuance..

ThriveAT · 13/09/2025 16:58

atinydropofcherrysherry · 13/09/2025 16:57

Thank you, British men for this March

Is this a joke?

justasking111 · 13/09/2025 16:59

ThriveAT · 13/09/2025 16:58

Is this a joke?

No it's an opinion I think.

CantCallItLove · 13/09/2025 16:59

PollieDarton · 13/09/2025 16:56

On a crucial part of the march route from n the city centre where the 88 bus runs past every 5-7 minutes I’d say it’s just as likely not symbolic. And that’s my point about context. It’s like having Greggs as a secret symbol and filming on the high street then being surprised there’s a Greggs in your picture.

That photo wasn't just snapped spontaneously. They chose the location. They posed. The photo was taken as the number on the bus is very clearly in shot. These things didn't happen by chance.

Clarabell77 · 13/09/2025 16:59

2dogsandabudgie · 13/09/2025 16:32

Maybe that's what the OP's son looks like 🤷‍♀️

I did notice that a lot of the counter protestors were in black wearing masks which made me wonder why.

Well if he’s kitted himself out like that then no wonder she’s shaking.

I’ve not seen any mask-wearing counter protestors, but okay.

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2025 16:59

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/09/2025 16:54

I'm in in London right now. I don't live here but am visiting friends. Today I arranged to meet an elderly friend at a restaurant near Waterloo (obviously, when we arranged it we'd no idea) and we individually found ourselves walking in a sea of flag-draped, chanting and shouting, very scary people.

My 84 year old friend was particularly frightened when I met her. There's "protesting" (which I believe is a right) but this was intimidatory to passers-by. Even in the restaurant - which has a bar attached - we found the noise from the large crowd which decided to drink and chant in there was unpleasant.

"Unite the kingdom" the march was called and many had this on the union flags they were wearing. I didn't feel "united" by this.

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I guess similar to what the poor Jewish community have had to put UK with every Saturday fpr months from the hostile pro palestinian protesters...awful isnt it?

Satisfiedwithanapple · 13/09/2025 17:00

cardibach · 13/09/2025 16:57

So we aren’t overrun then? Goodo.

Well according to the ONS 81% of the population are white. I don’t think the 3% is correct.

Whu · 13/09/2025 17:00

Hopefully he’s not in the mob fighting police currently.

happydappy2 · 13/09/2025 17:00

I've lived in Saudi Arabia-you abide by their rules or get kicked out. We are too soft in this country, allowing people to be fully veiled-it's not our way of life. Does that make me a racist?

cardibach · 13/09/2025 17:00

2dogsandabudgie · 13/09/2025 16:36

Nobody has said they are, but I doubt the majority of people have heard of it.

Interesting that it’s the ones opposed to SYL who are most likely to say they know it. Maybe we used facts to make our judgement of him?

PollieDarton · 13/09/2025 17:01

cardibach · 13/09/2025 16:55

It gives a signal of intent. You know this. Stop being an apologist for it, if that’s what you are doing.

I asked a question, drop the nastiness. Intent for what? Don’t you think they know what they are there for?

2dogsandabudgie · 13/09/2025 17:01

cardibach · 13/09/2025 16:56

What would the government listening look like to you? Because from my perspective they’ve hardened their approach considerably and sound like they are trying to out Reform Reform on this issue.
Anyway, better of writing to your MP than marching with SYL and his ilk.

Because that's what we've always done, marched in protest against issues we're not happy with.

EasternStandard · 13/09/2025 17:02

cardibach · 13/09/2025 17:00

Interesting that it’s the ones opposed to SYL who are most likely to say they know it. Maybe we used facts to make our judgement of him?

You likely follow more of this stuff than others. A lot of the things people reference from X or BlueSky like names or what TR is up to isn’t something I see. I’m not on there and miss it unless repeated on here.

PollieDarton · 13/09/2025 17:03

CantCallItLove · 13/09/2025 16:59

That photo wasn't just snapped spontaneously. They chose the location. They posed. The photo was taken as the number on the bus is very clearly in shot. These things didn't happen by chance.

And as I’ve already said, you can’t possibly know that.

Dazedandconfusedma · 13/09/2025 17:03

Everythingwillbeokeventually44 · 13/09/2025 11:23

Today's march is for freedom of speech. Good on him 👏🏻

Hahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahhagahahahhahahahhagahahhagahhay!!! Right. Of course it is.

Anotheremptynester · 13/09/2025 17:04

PollieDarton · 13/09/2025 17:01

I asked a question, drop the nastiness. Intent for what? Don’t you think they know what they are there for?

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There's so much anti semitism coming from the pro-Palestinian brigade, that one symbol of HH is just a drop in the ocean.🤷‍♀️

Clarabell77 · 13/09/2025 17:04

DBSFstupid · 13/09/2025 16:44

What a cliché
3 million people there (according to the police) and they are not all "Thugs and Morons".
A typical blinkered, superior, lefty reply.
This is why we are where we are.

The headlines I’ve seen have said 900,000, but okay, if we go with 3 million, that’s about 4% of Englands population, if you imagine the distribution of IQ across the population in a bell curve that’s probably about right for the lower end.

Superior? Absolutely!

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/09/2025 17:04

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2025 16:59

I guess similar to what the poor Jewish community have had to put UK with every Saturday fpr months from the hostile pro palestinian protesters...awful isnt it?

If it's been like my experience today, I agree.

cardibach · 13/09/2025 17:04

justasking111 · 13/09/2025 16:43

Only an eejit could think using the eighth letter of the alphabet twice was a clever secret code. We wrote down better codes in a tent in the garden when we were primary age kids. 🙄

Well, we are talking about the far right. I for one have never attributed much brain power to them.
It’s a fact they use it. A PP posted a link if you want to read it, or you could google yourself.

2dogsandabudgie · 13/09/2025 17:04

Clarabell77 · 13/09/2025 16:59

Well if he’s kitted himself out like that then no wonder she’s shaking.

I’ve not seen any mask-wearing counter protestors, but okay.

Again as I said earlier it will depend on the news outlet as to which photos they will show.

Clarabell77 · 13/09/2025 17:05

PollieDarton · 13/09/2025 17:03

And as I’ve already said, you can’t possibly know that.

Please stop.

ExtraOnions · 13/09/2025 17:05

happydappy2 · 13/09/2025 17:00

I've lived in Saudi Arabia-you abide by their rules or get kicked out. We are too soft in this country, allowing people to be fully veiled-it's not our way of life. Does that make me a racist?

What do you mean “it’s not our way of life” .. it’s very much out way of life - you can wear pretty much wear what you want, we don’t police it (unless you are specifically supporting a designated terrorist organisation).

It’s part of the liberal way of life we all enjoy .. and that these protestors say they are protecting (but aren’t)

If a woman chooses to be veiled, that’s her beeswax. I wouldn’t do it, but nobody is making me.

cardibach · 13/09/2025 17:06

GiraffesAtThePark · 13/09/2025 16:43

I’d go on a march about freedom of speech as it is a concern but I hate the left doesn’t care about this issue and don’t want to go on a march organised by far right. It’d be great if there could be a march supported by a plurality of political leanings. I just feel going would come across as believing in far right issues.

It’s not about freedom of speech.
We have freedom of speech.
As a left wing person I would never march with the right wing because I fundamentally disagree with their agenda.

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