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My son has gone on the march

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funkadelic · 13/09/2025 10:59

Hi, have been on here years but only lurk, don’t post. But today is the day.
I am in bits. My 22yr old DS is in London on this march. I am shaking and utterly appalled. We differ on politics massively and have done for some time. I work in education, have travelled and am bit of a lefty hippy but to be honest it’s becoming more about values and morals. He is fully immersed in the manosphere algorithm and I’ve always thought he is exploring himself and things and have chats about why he has the opinions he does and try and understand his point of view. I try not to belittle him but try and get him to critically think about things.
But this I can’t deal with. I am so upset that my son has gone to this, and that it is something that is so far away from me and my values, something that I thought I had instilled in him as well.
I am totally aware that it’s triggered embarrassment but that is my issue and I’m not putting that on him. He is still my son and I love him and his passion and interest in the world, just in something I believe is so wrong and makes me sad.
Please talk some sense into me.

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FenellaFeldman · 13/09/2025 16:51

justasking111 · 13/09/2025 16:43

Only an eejit could think using the eighth letter of the alphabet twice was a clever secret code. We wrote down better codes in a tent in the garden when we were primary age kids. 🙄

Nevertheless, they use it. Maybe they didn't mean for it to be so cryptic. Perhaps hiding in plain sight.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 13/09/2025 16:51

DBSFstupid · 13/09/2025 16:44

What a cliché
3 million people there (according to the police) and they are not all "Thugs and Morons".
A typical blinkered, superior, lefty reply.
This is why we are where we are.

3 million? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Last estimate from the Met I saw was 110,000. Still a large number i agree but your estimate is 27 times higher than reported
I mght suggest you are failing to live up to your user name.
Please DBSFStupid.

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2025 16:52

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/09/2025 16:38

Not my experience.

Then we have had different experiences. Not unheard of...

Tartantotty · 13/09/2025 16:52

He's old enough to make up his own mind. Let go please.

DBSFstupid · 13/09/2025 16:53

CantCallItLove · 13/09/2025 16:50

The Met police have estimated 110k Unite the Kingdom marchers, not three million.

They've also reported that the UTK marchers are throwing missiles and assaulting police officers.

Source??

daphne5694 · 13/09/2025 16:53

Just passed through one of the big London train stations. As is usual, lots of people of all different ethnicities and backgrounds. And then lots of groups of visibly-drunk white lads and men, draped in union jacks and Union Jack hats, shouting and swearing, wolf whistling at women passing them on the steps, laughing at their own wit. Strong smell of pot coming from some of them. Making basically everyone else uncomfortable, people trying to keep their kids away, women (me included) trying to avoid them. More like BNP-themed stag dos than defenders of women and girls.

CantCallItLove · 13/09/2025 16:53

RingoJuice · 13/09/2025 16:50

If he’s rejected the Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes and embraced more of the Charlie Kirk stuff, he’ll be fine.

Leftist males are kind of weird and creepy, at least they were when I was dating. I expect that it’s only got worse

Yes, I'm sure the OP hopes her son tells women to reject feminism, submit to their husbands, give birth to their rapists' babies and also suggests that 'prowling blacks' are a threat to white people. That's really not most people's definition of 'fine'.

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/09/2025 16:54

ExtraOnions · 13/09/2025 11:13

He’s off to listen to some Far-Right speakers… at best he’ll see through thier lies, at worst he starts to become radicalised.

The match will be attracting thugs from all over … it’s National Front 2.0.

I'm in in London right now. I don't live here but am visiting friends. Today I arranged to meet an elderly friend at a restaurant near Waterloo (obviously, when we arranged it we'd no idea) and we individually found ourselves walking in a sea of flag-draped, chanting and shouting, very scary people.

My 84 year old friend was particularly frightened when I met her. There's "protesting" (which I believe is a right) but this was intimidatory to passers-by. Even in the restaurant - which has a bar attached - we found the noise from the large crowd which decided to drink and chant in there was unpleasant.

"Unite the kingdom" the march was called and many had this on the union flags they were wearing. I didn't feel "united" by this.

ThriveAT · 13/09/2025 16:54

doubleshift · 13/09/2025 11:03

marching for what cause?

Racism

happydappy2 · 13/09/2025 16:54

why is it acceptable for a country like Barbados to be run by Bajan locals and keep the majority of the population black but it's not OK for Britain to keep the majority of its population white? Anyone?

ThriveAT · 13/09/2025 16:54

smallpinecone · 13/09/2025 11:34

You’re in bits and shaking? Maybe that’s a clue that your reaction is wildly disproportionate…

No, it's not. I would feel the same if my son joined the throngs of racist yobs marching for racism.

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2025 16:54

Donttellempike · 13/09/2025 16:42

Because they are racists. You’re welcome

Don't be silly. They're not. Concerns about uncontrolled immigration doesnt = being a racist.

Clarabell77 · 13/09/2025 16:54

Livelovebehappy · 13/09/2025 16:29

Yep. On both sides. Let's make it clear that both sets are behaving like morons...who'd have thought.....

No, I’m talking about the one side.

CantCallItLove · 13/09/2025 16:54

DBSFstupid · 13/09/2025 16:53

Source??

Met police twitter - sorry X account. I posted a screenshot upthread.

Satisfiedwithanapple · 13/09/2025 16:55

DBSFstupid · 13/09/2025 16:53

Source??

They have form for deliberately underestimating the number of people on marches so I’m sure that has been said.

MeinKraft · 13/09/2025 16:55

He’s entitled to his own political opinions, I’d be more worried about his personal safety. This has the potential to erupt into violence later.

cardibach · 13/09/2025 16:55

PollieDarton · 13/09/2025 16:24

So what does it actually do then? I mean in today’s context what is this hidden reference actually going to accomplish? Were all the nazis going to sit a home watching the tennis until they saw this picture of an 88 but calling them to arms? I bet somewhere there’s a TFL advert in the archives using the exact same bus route in publications. Wonder why nobody is accusing the Mayor of London of using hidden Nazi codes..

It gives a signal of intent. You know this. Stop being an apologist for it, if that’s what you are doing.

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/09/2025 16:55

happydappy2 · 13/09/2025 16:54

why is it acceptable for a country like Barbados to be run by Bajan locals and keep the majority of the population black but it's not OK for Britain to keep the majority of its population white? Anyone?

The vast majority of the population here IS white.

PollieDarton · 13/09/2025 16:56

cardibach · 13/09/2025 16:48

Why’s that ‘bad news’. I know it’s a bus route. I just don’t believe it was by chance that SYL decided to take his flag there for a photo.

On a crucial part of the march route from n the city centre where the 88 bus runs past every 5-7 minutes I’d say it’s just as likely not symbolic. And that’s my point about context. It’s like having Greggs as a secret symbol and filming on the high street then being surprised there’s a Greggs in your picture.

Clarabell77 · 13/09/2025 16:56

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/09/2025 16:54

I'm in in London right now. I don't live here but am visiting friends. Today I arranged to meet an elderly friend at a restaurant near Waterloo (obviously, when we arranged it we'd no idea) and we individually found ourselves walking in a sea of flag-draped, chanting and shouting, very scary people.

My 84 year old friend was particularly frightened when I met her. There's "protesting" (which I believe is a right) but this was intimidatory to passers-by. Even in the restaurant - which has a bar attached - we found the noise from the large crowd which decided to drink and chant in there was unpleasant.

"Unite the kingdom" the march was called and many had this on the union flags they were wearing. I didn't feel "united" by this.

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Sorry you and your elderly friend had to experience this, they really are the dregs of society.

CantCallItLove · 13/09/2025 16:56

Satisfiedwithanapple · 13/09/2025 16:55

They have form for deliberately underestimating the number of people on marches so I’m sure that has been said.

Are they making up the assaults on their officers too?

cardibach · 13/09/2025 16:56

2dogsandabudgie · 13/09/2025 16:25

Are you saying that everyone at the protests will have been throwing stuff at hotels? That's rather a stretch. I expect the majority are there are fed up of the Government not listening.

What would the government listening look like to you? Because from my perspective they’ve hardened their approach considerably and sound like they are trying to out Reform Reform on this issue.
Anyway, better of writing to your MP than marching with SYL and his ilk.

atinydropofcherrysherry · 13/09/2025 16:57

Thank you, British men for this March

Uricon2 · 13/09/2025 16:57

DBSFstupid · 13/09/2025 16:53

Source??

It's lead story on the Daily Mail site, with much footage.

You know, that well known organ of Left wing thought, the Mail.

happydappy2 · 13/09/2025 16:57

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