My son has gone on the march

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Hi, have been on here years but only lurk, don’t post. But today is the day.
I am in bits. My 22yr old DS is in London on this march. I am shaking and utterly appalled. We differ on politics massively and have done for some time. I work in education, have travelled and am bit of a lefty hippy but to be honest it’s becoming more about values and morals. He is fully immersed in the manosphere algorithm and I’ve always thought he is exploring himself and things and have chats about why he has the opinions he does and try and understand his point of view. I try not to belittle him but try and get him to critically think about things.
But this I can’t deal with. I am so upset that my son has gone to this, and that it is something that is so far away from me and my values, something that I thought I had instilled in him as well.
I am totally aware that it’s triggered embarrassment but that is my issue and I’m not putting that on him. He is still my son and I love him and his passion and interest in the world, just in something I believe is so wrong and makes me sad.
Please talk some sense into me.

Wish it was silly.

Try getting a copper if you've been burgled.

Then try getting a copper if you've sent some hurty words on a tweet.

One will come at warp speed and it isn't the first. 🙄

Not at all. The shooter apparently came from a Republican family and had been radicalised.

And what do you think “Unite the Kingdom” means in this context?

The fact that you think your views are right and his are wrong shows you are incredibly blinkered.

Lol. Do you hold views you think are wrong?

Show me where I so much as mentioned apologies. I’ll wait…

You are wrong. Not a day goes by when I don't hear a conversation about illegal immigration. The number of people interested is huge and varied.

When there is a safe way to claim, that’s where people claim. In the situation described by the PP it was people who had failed to get asylum just arriving.
If there is a safe place offshore it’s permissible to return people who do claim to that point.

They didn’t invade Poland to save the Jews, it was to end the war.

You could still apply for asylum but it would have involved being able to get on the plane at the other end.

Anti march people, why do you think between 1-3 million people are marching today?

Lot's of ops have told us it's because of fury, poverty, being unheard, illegal immigration etc and in the main your have dismissed those reasons. So why are they there?

To claim the Germans don’t get “nearly the same amount of grief” is laughable.

But also they fully owned up to their history*, teach it PROPERLY, stopped trying to play it down with the “but others did it too and we built railways!!” defence and paid substantial reparations to their victims.

Britain did none of that. Also more people have more to say about the British empire because it was the largest so more people were impacted by it (and much of the legacy of European empire building is still being felt today).

*In Europe. Namibia, not so much.

Marching to free Palestine. 🇵🇸

Because being a white man isn't a free pass through life and they think it should be. That's why.

So how does that make him 'faaaaar-right'? Everybody now seems to be labelled far-right. I have seen people who want rapists deported or who fly the English flag during the World Cup described as 'far-right'. It's a meaningless phrase. Wanting less immigration and resenting the destruction of your national identity does not make you far-right ffs. It's a perfectly reasonable position to hold.

No one ever stops to ask why people are so angry. No one ever asked for multiculturalism. It has been IMPOSED on us by sneering, bullying, Oxbridge-educated globalists who despise the Brexit-voting 'gammons'. Now that is fascism. No one is "against immigration." T. S. Eliot, Henry James, Joseph Conrad, Clive James and Bill Bryson were all immigrants. But they came here because they had an affection for Britain and for British culture. They were also highly educated people with much to offer. When immigration is small scale and highly selective, it really can enrich a country. But when it occurs on a massive scale, and many of the people you import either know nothing about your country or have an ancestral grudge against it, it destroys your sense of belonging and identity.

Take a small island like Iceland. Their population is 450,000. Imagine if 300,000 Japanese people migrated there over the next decade. I have nothing against the Japanese, of course, but what do you think would happen to the Icelanders sense of identity? Obviously it would be destroyed. Do you think the globalist left have the right to do that? Don't you think the Icelandic people should be asked?

Be honest with yourself. Are you really so outraged as you claim? Or is this your way of showing everyone how cool and progressive you are? You know, look at me, I'm so cool and progressive that I'm even prepared to criticise my own son. Frankly, you should be proud. Sounds to me like your son can actually think for himself. When you consider that the left have a strangehold on this country, that they pretty much run the schools, the universities, the arts, the BBC, and the publishing industry, it takes a lot to resist their propaganda.

It was Germany that invaded Poland and started WW2. The war wasn't specifically about saving Jews but there was a reason we didn't just let the Nazis take over Europe.

I don't even think the 'Kingdom' should be united tbh - Wales and Scotland never vote in right wing governments, the North of Ireland is moving away from Unionism, why is it fair to lumber us with a load of fascists in 2029 just because it's what England wants?

Christian? Don't make me laugh. There is nothing Christian about any of it.

I can’t help you with your comprehension skills or lack thereof.

"You don't get to brush it aside" I hope that helps.

Yes I fucking will brush it aside - until every other person who shares an ethnicity with historic baddies is personally blamed for all the wrong in the world. I am sick of being treated like this.

If you don’t want anyone claiming via international law and just arriving as allowed, you’d have to provide a place for everyone who applied and met the criteria. You wouldn’t be able to put any caps on numbers.

Can you envisage how many people that would be?

Nonsense.

Complete nonsense.

Because we have a segment of the population with an unfortunately low IQ?

That reminds me, what happened to Yaxley-Lennon's wooden crosses? How were they used?

How so?