My son has gone on the march

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Hi, have been on here years but only lurk, don’t post. But today is the day.
I am in bits. My 22yr old DS is in London on this march. I am shaking and utterly appalled. We differ on politics massively and have done for some time. I work in education, have travelled and am bit of a lefty hippy but to be honest it’s becoming more about values and morals. He is fully immersed in the manosphere algorithm and I’ve always thought he is exploring himself and things and have chats about why he has the opinions he does and try and understand his point of view. I try not to belittle him but try and get him to critically think about things.
But this I can’t deal with. I am so upset that my son has gone to this, and that it is something that is so far away from me and my values, something that I thought I had instilled in him as well.
I am totally aware that it’s triggered embarrassment but that is my issue and I’m not putting that on him. He is still my son and I love him and his passion and interest in the world, just in something I believe is so wrong and makes me sad.
Please talk some sense into me.

Yes, this is absolutely what needs to happen.

It has astounded me that Labour seems to have learned nothing since Gordon Brown’s comment about a woman worried about her son’s job prospects 15 years ago.

I guess we would be on the different marches

You on the 'unite the kingdom'

Me on the 'march against facism'

Dorisbonson · Today 14:03
Are you smoking crack?
Has Farage/Robinson published a new Mein Kampf? Are we going to see France as Lebensraum? Will the they be setting fire the Reichstag/Parliament?

And did you sleep through the attack on the Capitol on January 6th when supporters of Farage’s chum wouldn’t accept the democratic vote?

Give it time.

"march organised by a neo-Nazi."

But that is your opnion- that it is a "march organised by a neo-Nazi." And not everyone agrees with you. That doesnt make them lost or neo-Nazi supporters. Your opinions are not holier than others. Listen to yourself 😂

The elites are fleeing the UK. The mobile professional classes are leaving too. Our top academics (including multiple Nobel prize winners) have left. Entrepreneurs are leaving.

The past week alone has businesses cancel seen billions of investment in the UK:

• Merck cancelling a £1bn R&D centre
• Ineos cancelling all investment in the UK for the foreseeable future (literally billions)
• Astra Zeneca cancelling a £200m centre in Cambridge.

The labour party have a Marxist communist running out energy policy (we now have energy prices 3 times higher than the USA). They have appointed a Marxist as a junior treasury minister.

I think your tax the rich policies are just driving the country into the ground. We are all poorer because of these anti business, anti investment, anti job policies.

I know very little about him. Indeed I had no idea he was involved.

This march is huge, WAY bigger than any one person. I suspect those not in the habit of protesting are doing so on principle and heart feeling, not as blind followers of one man.

And please don't tell me what I am and am not. There's a great deal of irony to be found in the tone of your reply.

Oh PLEASE
YABU
Its not about YOU love

They're selling it as a day trip to London then dropping people off to take part in the march? Can you post the link? Sorry if you've already posted it, I've not read the full thread.

Other religions, homosexuals, unmarried parents, for example. Basically, anyone who doesn’t conform to their “Christian” (not) ideals. But I suspect you may know that.

To give him some credit, Farage has distanced himself from Waxy Lemon, which is why Elon Musk has publicly started grooming that Rupert Lowe gobshite who said he'd have him in Reform/ UKIP. But he's media friendly enough to have got this as front page news throughout the summer.

How old are your dc, are they young adults?

Plus if you read the op it is very much about political divergence and being upset about that, not safety.

They present one perspective in one location. Not the whole story.
Remember this 1980s advert?

Being affronted by kind and reasonable opinions suggests your not so sure about the moral robustness of your own.

That's an inaccurate, unproven, generalisation.

It only undercuts wages if employers exploit immigrant workers.

Wait until you find out about the Barbary slave trade and what these north African slavers did to millions of European and Irish slaves (to name a few)....

Did you actually read all of my post?

It doesn't matter how old they are, the maternal instinct would be the same.

So your example relates to a different country where someone attempted to assassinate Trump before the election and someone just shot a right wing political activist? It seems to me that the left wing in the US is very dangerous? No?

Whats your point again?

That country is not the UK so I dont see the link, but a really interesting example you have chosen

Well, not really.
If someone came on a boat in that situation they would actually be illegal I migrants, they couldn’t claim asylum and couldn’t become a citizen.

Exactly.
This is going on in York at the moment which is extremely popular for international tourists and students. These flaggers have been removing world flags that have been put up near the campus and installing even more of their own.

So do you really think the migrant Deliveroo drivers using others' identification are being paid the Minimum Wage ??

What do you actually think the march is about?
It was organised by SLY and has Steve Bannon and Katie Hopkins speaking. That tells you all you need to know about the kind of March it is.
if people don’t know that then they haven’t bothered to do much research into what they are actually marching for.

Why what happens to international law that says no matter how you arrive you are eligible?

Thank you. I really try to be. He’s not completely lost, he thinks the whole Andre Tate thing is crap, and has seen the light about Trump thankfully

that‘s great. So don’t alienate him or damage your relationship by reacting instinctively.

try to keep the lines of communication open, ask critical questions and trust that he will find his way in the world. That’s really all you can do at this point, tbh…